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From: Vladimir Bashkirtsev <vladimir@bashkirtsev.com>
To: joshd@hq.newdream.net
Cc: Dan Mick <dan.mick@inktank.com>, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: librbd: error finding header
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:10:57 +0930	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FFE3939.2000000@bashkirtsev.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FFC8BBC.6010807@hq.newdream.net>

On 11/07/12 05:38, Josh Durgin wrote:
> On 07/10/2012 02:25 AM, Vladimir Bashkirtsev wrote:
>> On 10/07/12 14:32, Dan Mick wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/09/2012 08:27 PM, Vladimir Bashkirtsev wrote:
>>>> On 10/07/12 03:17, Dan Mick wrote:
>>>>> Well, it's not so much those; those are the objects that hold data
>>>>> blocks.  You're more interested in the objects whose names end in
>>>>> '.rbd'.  These are the header objects, one per image, and are
>>>>> interpreted by rbd info, but I'm concerned that one of them may not
>>>>> exist.
>>>> Right on the ball: .rbd for image concerned just does not exist. So 
>>>> how
>>>> can we recover from this? And why it has disappeared in first 
>>>> place? (I
>>>> guess latter may be related to some sort of bug)
>>>
>>> Don't know why it might have disappeared.  Recovery: no easy way. It's
>>> possible that image header could be reconstructed, but there aren't
>>> any tools written to do it (the header format is pretty uncomplicated).
>> Well... Then somehow either I need to rebuild it manually or clean up
>> image remains to free up space. Given that rbd tool refuses to do
>> anything without .rbd object then clean up appears to be manual as well.
>>
>> I have run rbd info on the rest of images and excluded rb.* objects
>> belonging to good images. Now I know broken image has prefix of rb.0.1
>> and technically I can clean out objects belonging to this image. But rbd
>> ls seems to pull the list of rbd images from somewhere: broken image
>> must be removed from there as well. Not sure where it is stored.
>
> This is stored in the rbd_directory object. 'rbd rm' tries to do
> as much as it can when missing the header, including removing the image
> from the directory. If you do 'rbd rm image --debug-rbd 2' you should
> see this happen. You'll still get the message about the header being
> missing, but it should continue and remove it from the rbd_directory
> object as well. It can't remove the data objects since it doesn't
> know the correct prefix without the header.
Managed to recreate header and run rbd rm as per normal
>
>> Alternatively how hard it would be to throw together a quick tool which
>> picks up these objects and reconstructs .rbd header? Something tells me
>> that it should be relatively straight forward.
>
> It's pretty simple if you don't have any snapshots. If you do have
> snapshots, you would need to figure out which snapshot ids they have,
> and without the header the only way you could do that would be to
> examine the rbd data objects on the osds (there's no way to examine
> which selfmanaged snapshots exist via librados right now).
>
> Alternatively, you could brute force the snapshot ids by attempting to 
> read from each snapshot id for each data object (since not all of them
> will have all snapshots). If they all return -ENOENT for a given
> snapshot id, that snapshot id doesn't exist in the image.
>
> If any snapshots had different sizes, or in future versions of rbd had 
> other metadata change, you might need to recreate that metadata to be 
> able to use the snapshot.
>
> If you created a new header ignoring any snapshots that existed,
> you would end up with space still being used by the snapshots after
> you removed the image.
Thank you for your explanation. I believe other people will definitely 
will find it useful. My case was not severe but having clear idea of how 
underlying rados storage keeps rbd images is definitely a bonus should 
anything like it happen again.

Just quick question: index on the end of object name rb.*.*.<index> is 
sequential number of object in rbd image? Ie to find size of an image we 
need to find highest index, multiply it by block size (based on order) 
and we should get size of an image? I guess size of an image is not 
recorded anywhere except header?
>
>> I have no pressing need to recover this image - I have pulled the backup
>> and now it is on its merry way. But just for future sake we need to get
>> this one resolved: another day someone else will hit it.
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>>
>> 30 minutes later:
>>
>> I have looked at structure of rbd_obj_header_ondisk and really it is
>> quite simple. Image has no snapshots and so it makes everything straight
>> forward. Order is default 22, size - well, unknown but finding object
>> with highest index provides some guidance. get rbd header from another
>> image, using hexedit changed name and size, put it back and viola -
>> image is back and running. Not quite sure about integrity but at least
>> now it will allow to remove image cleanly.
>>
>>>
>>> It certainly shouldn't have just happened.  Any idea what operations
>>> might have been in progress when it did?
>> Obviously not. I am running ceph over last few months trying to get it
>> off track and till now had no major issues. VM concerned was running
>> while I did upgrade from 0.47.3 to 0.48. After that point I have asked
>> the list if it is safe to live migrate VM with rbd cache on. Josh
>> confirmed that it is safe to do so. So I have live migrated VM to
>> another host. No dramas. Still everything runs. Then I have updated
>> hosts (rolling update again - migrating VMs away while rebooting hosts).
>> I have around 10 VMs (including heavily loaded) and all of them migrated
>> around without any issues. Then suddenly this VM refused to migrate.
>> While I was typing it I remembered that there was one issue between
>> upgrade of ceph and failure to migrate: one of pgs turned inconsistent.
>> pg repair fixed it and I immediately forgot about it. Could it be the
>> reason why this .rbd disappeared? (Went to check logs but logrotate
>> already removed it).
>
> Yeah, the the inconsistent pg was very likely the problem. If you see
> that happen again it would be good to save the osd logs so we can try to
> figure out how it happened. PG repair won't be able to replace missing 
> objects if they're missing on all replicas.
I really did stupid thing allowing these logs to rotate out. I was 
preoccupied with something else and when I hit inconsistency which was 
fixed by pg repair. It did not occur to me to at least copy logs away. 
Now it is too late but I certainly will remember it next time.
>
> Josh



  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-12  2:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-09  5:42 librbd: error finding header Vladimir Bashkirtsev
2012-07-09  9:03 ` Dan Mick
2012-07-09 10:29   ` Vladimir Bashkirtsev
2012-07-09 16:30     ` Florian Haas
2012-07-10  3:28       ` Vladimir Bashkirtsev
2012-07-09 17:47     ` Dan Mick
2012-07-10  3:29       ` Vladimir Bashkirtsev
     [not found]       ` <4FFBA108.3010009@bashkirtsev.com>
     [not found]         ` <4FFBB74F.2050702@inktank.com>
2012-07-10  9:25           ` Vladimir Bashkirtsev
2012-07-10 20:08             ` Josh Durgin
2012-07-12  2:40               ` Vladimir Bashkirtsev [this message]
2012-07-12  4:41                 ` Josh Durgin
2012-07-12 16:00                   ` Tommi Virtanen
2012-07-13 13:06                     ` Vladimir Bashkirtsev
2012-07-14  0:34                       ` Josh Durgin

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