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From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
To: "Günther Noack" <gnoack3000@gmail.com>,
	"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	"Justin Suess" <utilityemal77@gmail.com>
Cc: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"Serge E . Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	"Tingmao Wang" <m@maowtm.org>,
	"Samasth Norway Ananda" <samasth.norway.ananda@oracle.com>,
	"Matthieu Buffet" <matthieu@buffet.re>,
	"Mikhail Ivanov" <ivanov.mikhail1@huawei-partners.com>,
	konstantin.meskhidze@huawei.com, "Alyssa Ross" <hi@alyssa.is>,
	"Jann Horn" <jannh@google.com>,
	"Tahera Fahimi" <fahimitahera@gmail.com>,
	"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] lsm: Add hook unix_path_connect
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 16:24:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c3956c2-4133-46bb-9ee5-4abf9bf7fff8@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260115.b5977d57d52d@gnoack.org>


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On 1/15/26 05:10, Günther Noack wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 06:27:15PM -0500, Paul Moore wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 4:34 AM Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2026 at 03:32:57PM +0100, Günther Noack wrote:
>>>> From: Justin Suess <utilityemal77@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Adds an LSM hook unix_path_connect.
>>>>
>>>> This hook is called to check the path of a named unix socket before a
>>>> connection is initiated.
>>>>
>>>> Cc: Günther Noack <gnoack3000@gmail.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Justin Suess <utilityemal77@gmail.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>  include/linux/lsm_hook_defs.h |  4 ++++
>>>>  include/linux/security.h      | 11 +++++++++++
>>>>  net/unix/af_unix.c            |  9 +++++++++
>>>>  security/security.c           | 20 ++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  4 files changed, 44 insertions(+)
>>
>> ...

...

> * Some properties of the resolved socket are still observable to
>   userspace:
> 
>   When we only pass the path to a later LSM hook, there are a variety
>   of additional error case checks in af_unix.c which are based on the
>   "other" socket which we looked up through the path.  Examples:
> 
>   * was other shutdown(2)? (ECONNREFUSED on connect or EPIPE on dgram_sendmsg)
>   * does other support SO_PASSRIGHTS (fd passing)? (EPERM on dgram_sendmsg)
>   * would sendmsg pass sk_filter() (on dgram_sendmsg)
> 
>   For a LSM policy that is supposed to restrict the resolution of a
>   UNIX socket by path, I would not expect such properties of the
>   resolved socket to be observable?
> 
>   (And we also can't fix this up in the LSM by returning a matching
>   error code, because at least unix_dgram_sendmsg() returns multiple
>   different error codes in these error cases.)
> 
>   I would prefer if the correctness of our LSM did not depend on
>   keeping track of the error scenarios in af_unix.c.  This seems
>   brittle.

Indeed so.

> Overall, I am not convinced that using pre-existing hooks is the right
> way and I would prefer the approach where we have a more dedicated LSM
> hook for the path lookup.
> 
> Does that seem reasonable?  Let me know what you think.
> 
> –Günther

Having a dedicated LSM hook for all path lookups is definitely my
preferred approach.  Could this allow limiting directory traversal
as well?
-- 
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-15 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-10 14:32 [PATCH v2 0/5] landlock: Pathname-based UNIX connect() control Günther Noack
2026-01-10 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] lsm: Add hook unix_path_connect Günther Noack
2026-01-10 16:45   ` Justin Suess
2026-01-11  9:55     ` Günther Noack
2026-01-13 22:51     ` Paul Moore
2026-01-13 23:30       ` Paul Moore
2026-01-13  9:34   ` Christian Brauner
2026-01-13 23:27     ` Paul Moore
2026-01-15 10:10       ` Günther Noack
2026-01-15 21:24         ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2026-01-15 22:32           ` Günther Noack
2026-01-15 21:46         ` Paul Moore
2026-01-10 14:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] landlock: Control pathname UNIX domain socket resolution by path Günther Noack
2026-01-12 15:38   ` Justin Suess
2026-01-19 11:43     ` Mickaël Salaün
2026-01-10 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] samples/landlock: Add support for named UNIX domain socket restrictions Günther Noack
2026-01-11  9:50   ` Günther Noack
2026-01-10 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] landlock/selftests: Test " Günther Noack
2026-01-10 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] landlock: Document FS access rights for pathname UNIX sockets Günther Noack
2026-01-12 16:08 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] landlock: Pathname-based UNIX connect() control Mickaël Salaün
2026-01-12 20:53   ` Günther Noack
2026-01-17 18:57     ` Justin Suess
2026-01-18 17:44       ` Günther Noack

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