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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Anthony Liguori" <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost (ehabkost@redhat.com)" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	gleb@redhat.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	blauwirbel@gmail.com, avi@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] target-i386: refactor reset handling and move it into cpu.c
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:19:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <501A6243.4020800@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA_yWiKsAn=qnogJj9MVctOH7W+n9Y2j3e4vaWBF3bmWjg@mail.gmail.com>



On 08/01/2012 11:43 PM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 1 August 2012 22:25, Andreas Färber <afaerber@suse.de> wrote:
>> Am 01.08.2012 22:47, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>>> Relying on the CPU list for this isn't very QOM-like.  A better approach
>>> would be to make all CPUs appear in a container and then have the reset
>>> propagate through container.
>>
>> That doesn't work since our CPU modelling was going to be machine/SoC
>> specific. For x86, agreement seemed to be /machine/cpu[n]. For ARM,
>> Peter requested path/to/SoC/cortex/cpu[n].
>
> I don't think I got that specific (and I definitely wouldn't have
> suggested using 'cortex' outside the context of a product name like that).
> I do think that there should be a container with the 4 (or whatever) CPUs,
> 4 timers, GIC, etc, similarly to the way the hardware is a selfcontained
> unit. (And that unit would then sit in a container with the other devices
> that live in the SoC). I don't think that's hugely different from how
> an x86 model would look.
>
> (The phrasing I tend to use is "one cpu with 4 cores", but if QEMU
> in general is going to call a single cpu core a "cpu" that's fine.
> We do need a term for the thing with all the cores, though...)
IMHO: CPU in qemu currently is more like a logical CPU.
And x86 target might need a container for them as well if we are ever to 
model CPU hotplug at socket level. It could be useful for NUMA modelling 
as well.

>
>>> Reset is a complicated beast.  While we model a single reset line today,
>>> this isn't technically correct.  I believe the distinction between reset
>>> types start to matter with PCI-e actually.
>
> We already have one system (exynos) that would like to model a
> difference between system hard reset and warm reset of some kind.
>
> But really unless we want to bite the bullet and actually
> model reset properly (ie as a set of Pins wired up by the machine
> model, with no particular magic behaviour) it's always going to be
> a 'this kind of works and isn't too ugly to deal with' compromise,
> and I don't have very strong feelings about exactly how we
> compromise.
>
> -- PMM
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-02 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-23 13:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] target-i386: refactor reset handling and move it into cpu.c Igor Mammedov
2012-07-23 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] target-i386: move cpu halted decision into x86_cpu_reset Igor Mammedov
2012-08-01 14:00   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-02 10:11     ` Igor Mammedov
2012-07-23 13:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] target-i386: move cpu_reset and reset callback to cpu.c Igor Mammedov
2012-08-01 14:09   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01  8:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2 v3] target-i386: refactor reset handling and move it into cpu.c Gleb Natapov
2012-08-01 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 15:50   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 18:25     ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 19:35       ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 20:02         ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 20:16           ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 20:47             ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-01 21:25               ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 21:43                 ` Peter Maydell
2012-08-01 22:15                   ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-02 11:19                   ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2012-08-01 20:57           ` Andreas Färber
2012-08-01 21:19             ` Anthony Liguori

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