From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Henningsson Subject: Re: Plumbers: Please split audio topics into separate sessions Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 13:19:46 +0200 Message-ID: <5020F9D2.3090902@canonical.com> References: <50201664.7000804@canonical.com> <50202500.5060607@canonical.com> <20120806222417.GF26698@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> <5020B8AF.3090003@canonical.com> <5020CD16.6020705@canonical.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from youngberry.canonical.com (youngberry.canonical.com [91.189.89.112]) by alsa0.perex.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA58626501A for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 12:50:00 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org Sender: alsa-devel-bounces@alsa-project.org To: Takashi Iwai Cc: "alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" , Mark Brown List-Id: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org On 08/07/2012 10:35 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote: >> New topic suggestion: >> >> Simplifying volume setting on startup/shutdown >> ==================== >> Currently, on a normal desktop session, volume is set four times on >> startup - initally by the kernel, then by alsactl, then by PulseAudio in >> the DM session, then by PulseAudio in the logged in session. >> >> When shutting down, both PulseAudio and alsactl saves volumes to restore >> them later. And then we also have suspend and hibernate to consider, and >> that cards can be plugged in at any time. >> >> First, isn't this quite complex for something as simple as setting >> volumes? Second, can we facilitate new features, such as 1) having a >> "set this volume as default, for all users, on startup" button in the >> volume control, or 2) "allow the DM user to introspect different users' >> volumes"? >> =================== >> >> This is mostly a problem statement. I don't have a good proposal for how >> to simplify it. > > OK, could you create a blueprint with that content? > Then I'll inform plumbers committee about the addition as another > (5th) slot at first. Then we can rearrange topics in 5 slots. Ok, new blueprint added as https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lpc/+spec/lpc2012-audio-simplify-volumes -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. https://launchpad.net/~diwic