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From: Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Roland Dreier <roland-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Steve Wise
	<swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Tzahi Oved <tzahio-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Trust model for raw QPs
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 17:28:29 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <502BB20D.8040403@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000001392a9b6b2a-ba67aaa6-b7b8-4c80-90db-03f0172aef6e-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>

On 15/08/2012 17:06, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012, Or Gerlitz wrote:
>
>> Currently, for an app to open a raw QP from user space, we (verbs) require
>> admin permission, for which we (Mellanox) got customer feedback saying this is
>> problematic on some of the environments.
>
> Well yes it is but the kernel mod is a one line to get rid of this problem.

Its one LOC that has behind it many lines  of reasoning... e.g as 
specified in the change-log, those QP are to some extent the RDMA stack 
form of packet/raw sockets.

>
>
>> Suppose we allow to user to provide source mac+vlan when creating the QP or when modifying its state, and the HW can enforce that -- in that case I think its OK to remove that restriction e.g ala what is allowed today with user space UD QPs when the fabric is IB.
>
> Well yes that would mean that the source mac and vlan are configured with
> admin permissions and then the app would run without within the
> constraints established in priviledged moded.

There a co-existence between the IP stack and the RDMA stack, which is 
for example exercised by the RDMA-CM design, here also, the admin 
configured a MAC and VLAN for a netdevice that is bounded to a HW 
NIC/port we want to create RAW QP on, and there's a non privileged user 
space app that want to  generate frames with this mac/vlan, and we say 
its allowed once the HW can enforce that.

Or.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-15 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-15 13:28 Trust model for raw QPs Or Gerlitz
     [not found] ` <502BA406.2060409-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 13:40   ` Steve Wise
     [not found]     ` <502BA6CD.9010308-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 13:48       ` Or Gerlitz
2012-08-15 14:06   ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]     ` <000001392a9b6b2a-ba67aaa6-b7b8-4c80-90db-03f0172aef6e-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 14:28       ` Or Gerlitz [this message]
2012-08-15 16:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]     ` <20120815164701.GD30810-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 17:31       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]         ` <CAJZOPZLiEguZv_HDe51Sg2bqpqVfGh76jNcLn-OfnreMGdmHvQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 17:36           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-08-15 17:33       ` Christoph Lameter
     [not found]         ` <000001392b589827-3d77568e-495d-4463-ab69-05b20205b7f5-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-08-15 18:20           ` Jason Gunthorpe

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