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From: Jordi Cucurull Juan <jordi.cucurull@scytl.com>
To: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: yoder1@us.ibm.com, Corey Bryant <coreyb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Is is possible to virtualise or share the TPM?
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 17:40:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <503F897F.4000306@scytl.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <503F7DD3.5080602@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Do you refer to the patches that add TPM support to the SeaBIOS?

If this is the case, this is just a completely virtual TPM without any 
link with the TPM of the physical machine, right?

Jordi.


On 08/30/2012 04:50 PM, Stefan Berger wrote:
> On 08/30/2012 10:21 AM, Jordi Cucurull Juan wrote:
>> Dear Stefan,
>>
>> What does it mean that the patches with the VTPM functionality exist 
>> but they are behind the regular ones? Does it mean that they are not 
>> currently updated? That they have less priority?
>
> It means that in my patch queue they are 'behind' the ones I posted 
> over the last few months.
>
>   Stefan
>
>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Jordi.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/29/2012 02:57 PM, Stefan Berger wrote:
>>> On 08/23/2012 04:05 PM, Corey Bryant wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 08/21/2012 06:31 AM, Jordi Cucurull Juan wrote:
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> After applying the TPM patches to QEMU, I was wondering if it is
>>>>> possible to simultaneously use the TPM in more than one virtual 
>>>>> machine,
>>>>> i.e. virtualisation of the TPM.
>>>>>
>>>>> According to the paper "Stefan Berger, Ramón Cáceres, Kenneth A.
>>>>> Goldman, Ronald Perez, Reiner Sailer, Leendert van Doorn. vTPM:
>>>>> Virtualizing the Trusted Platform Module" this seems to be 
>>>>> possible in
>>>>> Xen. Is not possible in QEMU?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Jordi.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think the pass-through driver supports use by multiple VMs. 
>>>> Stefan Berger should be able to answer better so I'm adding him to 
>>>> the thread.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The pass-through driver cannot provide access for multiple VMs to 
>>> the single hardware TPM on the host. The usage model and the 
>>> statefulness of the TPM (SRK password, owner password, keys) 
>>> basically prevent/complicate this. The implementation for Xen was 
>>> indep. of the Qemu code base today and there we used a software 
>>> implementation of the TPM that provided a private TPm instance to 
>>> each VM. I have patches for this for Qemu but due to an IRC chat in 
>>> Sept. 2011 they are 'behind' the pass-through driver patches.
>>>
>>>    Stefan
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-30 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-21 10:31 [Qemu-devel] Is is possible to virtualise or share the TPM? Jordi Cucurull Juan
2012-08-23 20:05 ` Corey Bryant
2012-08-29 12:57   ` Stefan Berger
2012-08-30 14:21     ` Jordi Cucurull Juan
2012-08-30 14:50       ` Stefan Berger
2012-08-30 15:40         ` Jordi Cucurull Juan [this message]
2012-08-30 16:17           ` Stefan Berger
2012-08-30 16:18           ` Stefan Berger

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