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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/11] expose sound device topology information
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:02:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50464251.7030601@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hehmh233w.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

Takashi Iwai wrote:
> Clemens Ladisch wrote:
>> The media controller API <linux/media.h> allows prividing routing
>> information, but its implementation does not quite fit the sound
>> drivers:
>> * it allows reconfiguration of links, but not in a way that would be
>>   useful for ALSA selector controls

I didn't mention why:  it is not possible to enable two links to a sink
pad, and neither can one change the state of two links atomically;
therefore, an enum control with exactly one active input cannot be
modelled.  (It might be possible to change the media controller API to
allow this.)

Mute controls _could_ be modelled by disabling links, but with all other
mixer control types not represented in the media controller API, this
doesn't appear to be very useful.

> But what about multiple codecs on a single control device?  Can they
> be represented well?

The driver has to choose the entity IDs so that they don't conflict;
something like busnumber<<20 | codecaddress<<10 | nodeid.
The USB audio driver will have this problem if there are multiple audio
control interfaces, so I guess it will have to include the interface
number.


Regards,
Clemens

      reply	other threads:[~2012-09-04 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-27 22:28 [RFC PATCH 1/11] expose sound device topology information Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:29 ` [RFC PATCH 01/11] ALSA: implement MEDIA_IOC_DEVICE_INFO Clemens Ladisch
2012-09-07  2:13   ` Mark Brown
2012-09-07  7:14     ` Clemens Ladisch
2012-09-07 10:40       ` Takashi Iwai
2012-08-27 22:30 ` [RFC PATCH 02/11] ALSA: implement MEDIA_IOC_ENUM_ENTITIES Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:30 ` [RFC PATCH 03/11] ALSA: pcm: add ALSA PCM device entities Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:31 ` [RFC PATCH 04/11] ALSA: implement MEDIA_IOC_ENUM_LINKS (1) Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:31 ` [RFC PATCH 05/11] ALSA: implement MEDIA_IOC_ENUM_LINKS (2) Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:32 ` [RFC PATCH 06/11] ALSA: implement MEDIA_IOC_SETUP_LINK Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH 07/11] [media] media: add entity types for ALSA Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:33 ` [RFC PATCH 08/11] ALSA: usb-audio: implement card get_info callback Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:34 ` [RFC PATCH 09/11] ALSA: usb-audio: create PCM device entities Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:35 ` [RFC PATCH 10/11] ALSA: usb-audio: add terminal/unit entities and links Clemens Ladisch
2012-08-27 22:36 ` [RFC PATCH 11/11] ALSA: hda-intel: implement card get_info callback Clemens Ladisch
2012-09-04 15:56 ` [RFC PATCH 1/11] expose sound device topology information Takashi Iwai
2012-09-04 18:02   ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]

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