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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Liu Ping Fan <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] qdev: fix create in place obj's life cycle problem
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:17:52 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <504742F0.7080907@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50473F3B.4080704@siemens.com>

On 09/05/2012 03:02 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2012-09-05 13:25, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 09/05/2012 02:11 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> On 2012-09-05 12:53, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>> On 09/05/2012 01:36 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My current preference is MemoryRegionOps::ref(MemoryRegion *mr) (and a
>>>>>> corresponding unref), which has the following requirements:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - if the refcount is nonzero, MemoryRegion::opaque is safe to use
>>>>>> - if the refcount is nonzero, the MemoryRegion itself is stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> The second point means that the memory subsystem will cache the region
>>>>> state and apply changes only after leaving a handler that performed them?
>>>>
>>>> No.  I/O callbacks may be called after a region has been disabled.
>>>>
>>>> I guess we can restrict this to converted regions, so we don't introduce
>>>> regressions.
>>>
>>> s/can/have to/. This property change will require some special care,
>>> hopefully mostly at the memory layer. A simple scenario from recent patches:
>>>
>>>     if (<enable>) {
>>>         memory_region_set_address(&s->pm_io, pm_io_base);
>>>         memory_region_set_enabled(&s->pm_io, true);
>>>     } else {
>>>         memory_region_set_enabled(&s->pm_io, false);
>>>     }
>> 
>> I am unable to avoid pointing out that this can be collapsed to
>> 
>>   memory_region_set_address(&s->pm_io, pm_io_base);
>>   memory_region_set_enabled(&s->pm_io, <enable>);
>> 
>> as the address is meaningless when disabled. Sorry.
>> 
>>>
>>> We will have to ensure that set_enabled(..., true) will never cause a
>>> dispatch using an outdated base address.
>> 
>> No, this is entirely safe.  If the guest changes a region offset
>> concurrently with issuing mmio on it, then it must expect either the old
>> or new offset to be used during dispatch.
> 

I forgot to mention that my clever rewrite above actually breaks this -
it needs to be wrapped in a transaction, otherwise we have a
move-then-disable pattern.

> You assume disable, reprogram, enable, ignoring that there could be
> multiple, invalid states between disable and enable. Real hardware takes
> care of the ordering.

It's possible of course, but the snippet above isn't susceptible on its own.

I don't think it's solvable.  To serialize, you must hold the device
lock, but we don't want to take the device lock during dispatch.

Users can protect against them by checking for ->enabled:

void foo_io_read(...)
{
   FooState *s = container_of(mr, ...);

   qemu_mutex_lock(&s->lock);
   if (!memory_region_enabled(mr)) {
       *data = ~(uint64_t)0;
       goto out;
   }
   ...
out:
   qemu_mutex_unlock(&s->lock);
}

Non-converted users will be naturally protected since we will take the
bql on their behalf.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-05 12:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-24  9:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/10] rework on hot unplug Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] qom: add, remove of link property need to ref, unref its target Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:52   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] qdev: change iterator callback seq Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] qom: export object_property_is_child, object_property_is_link Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-25  7:43     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-25  8:04   ` Blue Swirl
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] qdev: introduce new interface to remove composite sub-tree Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] qdev: finalize of qbus, qdev will not the right place to free children Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] qom: expose object_property_del_child Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:44   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] unplug: using new intf qdev_delete_subtree in acpi_piix_eject_slot Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 10:24   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-25  7:05     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] qdev: rename qdev_unplug to qdev_unplug_req Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:48   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] mon: release dev's ref hold by qdev_get_peripheral Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24  9:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] qdev: fix create in place obj's life cycle problem Liu Ping Fan
2012-08-24 14:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-25  7:42     ` liu ping fan
2012-08-27  7:01       ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-27  7:47         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27  8:17           ` liu ping fan
2012-08-27  8:27             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 17:09           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 17:14             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:09               ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 18:17                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:20                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 18:39                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:52                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 19:38                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 20:53                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28  1:01                             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 17:13                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:21                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 17:27                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:41                                     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-03  9:09                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-28  3:09                           ` liu ping fan
2012-08-28  3:38                             ` liu ping fan
2012-08-28  9:42                               ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-28 10:05                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-29 17:23                                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:30                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-29 17:40                                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-29 17:49                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-01  8:31                                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-01  8:57                                           ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-01  9:30                                             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-30  5:54                                       ` liu ping fan
2012-08-30  7:08                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-30  7:47                                           ` liu ping fan
2012-09-01  8:46                                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03  7:44                                             ` liu ping fan
2012-09-03  8:52                                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-03 10:06                                                 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-03 10:16                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-04  2:33                                                     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-04  2:34                                                   ` liu ping fan
2012-09-05  8:19                                                     ` liu ping fan
2012-09-05  9:52                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 10:36                                                         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-05 10:53                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 11:11                                                             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-05 11:25                                                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-05 12:02                                                                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-05 12:17                                                                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-08-27 13:19   ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 15:02     ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 15:14       ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 15:26         ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 16:24           ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 16:59             ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 18:35             ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 19:17               ` Anthony Liguori
2012-08-27 19:22                 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-08-27 20:58                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-08-27 21:34                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-08-27 18:27     ` Avi Kivity

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