From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
liu ping fan <qemulist@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [big lock] Discussion about the convention of device's DMA each other after breaking down biglock
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:28:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50599058.3040904@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50598FFA.5@siemens.com>
On 2012-09-19 11:27, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2012-09-19 11:23, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> On 09/19/2012 12:19 PM, liu ping fan wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>> Il 19/09/2012 11:11, liu ping fan ha scritto:
>>>>>>> Why not? devA will drop its local lock, devX will retake the big lock
>>>>>>> recursively, devB will take its local lock. In the end, we have biglock
>>>>>>> -> devB.
>>>>>>>
>>>>> But when adopting local lock, we assume take local lock, then biglock.
>>>>
>>>> No, because the local lock will be dropped before taking the biglock.
>>>> The order must always be coarse->fine.
>>>>
>>> But if we takes coarse firstly, then the mmio-dispatcher will still
>>> contend for the big lock against each other.
>>
>> Can you detail the sequence?
>>
>>>
>>>> I don't know if the front-end (device) lock should come before or after
>>>> the back-end (e.g. netdev) lock in the hierarchy, but that's another story.
>>>>
>>> I think fine->coarse may be the rule, since for some code path, it is
>>> not necessary to take coarse lock.
>>
>> coarse->fine doesn't mean you have to take the coarse lock.
>>
>> Valid:
>> lock(coarse)
>> lock(fine)
>
> This is invalid due to prio inversion issues, independent of potential
> deadlocks.
Err, forget it - the other way around is the problem.
Sorry,
Jan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-19 9:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-19 3:02 [Qemu-devel] [big lock] Discussion about the convention of device's DMA each other after breaking down biglock liu ping fan
2012-09-19 8:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 9:00 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19 9:07 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 9:11 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19 9:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-19 9:19 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-19 9:23 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 9:27 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-19 9:28 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-09-20 7:51 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-20 7:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-20 8:09 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-20 8:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-20 9:07 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-21 7:27 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-21 8:21 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-19 9:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 9:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-19 10:06 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 10:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-19 10:27 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 9:34 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-19 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-19 10:18 ` Jan Kiszka
2012-09-24 6:33 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-24 7:44 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 8:32 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-24 9:42 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 3:13 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-27 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 9:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 9:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 9:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 10:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 10:48 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-29 9:20 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-30 8:13 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-30 8:48 ` liu ping fan
2012-09-30 11:18 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-30 11:04 ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-30 11:17 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-30 11:48 ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-20 8:11 ` liu ping fan
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