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From: Oliver Schinagl <oliver+list@schinagl.nl>
To: Antti Palosaari <crope@iki.fi>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Support for Asus MyCinema U3100Mini Plus (attempt 2)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:00:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <505A0828.8040907@schinagl.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <505A0799.7050307@schinagl.nl>

On 09/19/12 19:57, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
> On 09/19/12 12:41, Antti Palosaari wrote:
>> On 09/19/2012 12:52 PM, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
>>> On 19-09-12 00:42, Antti Palosaari wrote:
>>>> On 09/19/2012 01:22 AM, oliver@schinagl.nl wrote:
>>>>> From: Oliver Schinagl <oliver@schinagl.nl>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is initial support for the Asus MyCinema U3100Mini Plus. The
>>>>> driver
>>>>> in its current form gets detected and loads properly. It uses the
>>>>> af9035 USB Bridge chip, with an af9033 demodulator. The tuner used is
>>>>> the FCI FC2580.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have only done a quick dvb scan, but it failed to tune to anything.
>>>>> Using dvbv5-scan -I CHANNEL <channelfile> It did show 'signal 100%'
>>>>> but
>>>>> failed to tune to anything, so I don't think signal strength works at
>>>>> all. Since I have really bad reception where my dev PC is, I may
>>>>> simple
>>>>> not receive anything here.
>>>>
>>>> Signal strength is very worst indicator. It should not be 100% in any
>>>> case. Switch off stupid % meter your are using and look plain numbers.
>>>> It is should be something between 0-0xffff (0xffff == 100% ?).
>>> I know 100% says nothing :p and I think especially with this driver? I
>>> didn't see the signal strength function implemented in the FC2580 (I
>>> have some code for it, once I have the device actually working :) But
>>> this is what dvbv5-scan reported.
>>
>> Have to say have never used tool. Instead w_scan, scan (dvbscan,
>> scandvb) and tzap. If you get working channels.conf file for your area
>> you are able to use tzap.
> dvbv5-scan is written by Mauro, it comes in the dvb-utils package
> together with tzap and dvbscan. It is to utilize the new dvb v5 api.
>
> Both can't find any channels however when scanning. Scanning with my
> Terratec Cynergy Dual T PCI-e, I also get 'tuning failed' when scanning
> for channels using dvbscan, however I do get a usefull channels.conf
> that I can use with tzap on the stick. Unfortunatly, no success.
>
> oliver@valexia ~ $ tzap -c channels.conf "Nederland 1"
> using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
> reading channels from file 'channels.conf'
> tuning to 546000000 Hz
> video pid 0x1b63, audio pid 0x1b64
> status 00 | signal ffff | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 |
> status 01 | signal ffff | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 |
>
> The status blinks to 01 every once in a while, but stays on zero mostly.
> "Nederland 1" is a FTA channel that should come in pretty strong.
>
> Of course I tested this all before changing the tuner enable bits. Once
> I changed that, well, I had a little party :)
>
> dvbscan still says tuning failed using dvbscan, but it actually finds
> all Networks and channels. Also tuning with tzap using a previously
> known working channels.conf works. (tzap -r + mplayer) though mplayer
> does some weird scaling, which I'm sure is mplayer's fault:
> Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
> VO: [x11] 704x576 => 1024x576 Planar YV12

Forgot to mention, here's output from tzap when successfully tuning a 
channel for completness sake. Also note, signal strength is awefully 
happy at 100% (ffff) which I doubt to be accurate.

status 00 | signal ffff | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 000001fa |
status 1f | signal ffff | snr 0000 | ber 00000000 | unc 000003de | 
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr 00dc | ber 0001d85c | unc 000003e9 | 
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr 0104 | ber 0000d1b0 | unc 000003e9 | 
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr 0104 | ber 00000000 | unc 000003e9 | 
FE_HAS_LOCK
status 1f | signal ffff | snr 0104 | ber 00000000 | unc 000003e9 | 
FE_HAS_LOCK

>
>
>>
>> Signal strength is reported by af9033 demodulator regardless if tuner
>> could report it or not.
>>
>>>> For me successful tzap reports (af9035 + tua9001):
>>>> status 1f | signal 5eb7 | snr 010e | ber 00000000 | unc 00000000 |
>>>> FE_HAS_LOCK
>>>>
>>>> FE_HAS_LOCK is most important, it says demodulator is locked to
>>>> channel and likely device is 100% working.
>>> I can't use tzap, as I can't scan for channel file. As I write this, I
>>> remember that I may have one on another system so should be able to use
>>> that to try tonight.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, when checking debug while it's running a scan (either
>>> dvbscan or dvbv5-scan) I notice that it passes the loop 5 times, but I
>>> think that's normal from what I can tell from the code. Also
>>> fc2580_get_if_frequency appears to be a stub, correct?
>>
>> I suspect it tests different parameters. Like one iteration for each
>> bandwidth. If you know your area transmission parameters you could skip
>> whole scanning and just waste only two seconds using tzap to test.
>>
>> fc2580_get_if_frequency is not stub, it is correctly implemented. FC2580
>> is direct conversion tuner (== zero-IF, IF 0 Hz) which means it
>> transfers RF band directly to the base-band. No IF used.
> Ah, so it is intended to always return zero. It just felt as the debug
> information was missing something, as there was a colon, indicating to
> show us some output. Maybe always print 0 :)
>
>>
>>>> Biggest problem of your patch is fc2580 frontend callback. fc2580
>>>> driver does not use any callback and that code is simple dead. It is
>>>> never called.
>>> Ah, assumption eh, I simply thought the callback is always used by the
>>> driver. I noticed some tuners do have the callback, others do their init
>>> just once. What's the cleanest solution, leave the code in the callback,
>>> and call it from fc9035_tuner_attach? (As you otherwise get a huge
>>> tuner_attach function). Anyway, why do some tuners have the callback and
>>> others don't? I guess it's a design decision of the driver, but why
>>> aren't they more equal?
>>
>> There should not be frontend callback unless needed. The basic (and only
>> one I know?) use scenario for tuner callback is to control some tuner
>> external pins using bridge GPIO. If there is no such pins then there is
>> no need for callback. For example digital AGC you asked earlier is such
>> control pin (actually 2 pins) but as it is not used no need for
>> callback. TUA9001 is good example of tuner having control pins.
> Since this tuner doesn't have external AGC that we know of, this tuner
> shouldn't have a callback. Makes sense.
>
>>
>> I think you refer fc0011 tuner callbacks. There seems to be reset and
>> power. At least power sounds something like it should not be there, I
>> suspect it is just some GPIO that turns on/off power from tuner and not
>> control any fc0011 pin.
>>
>> Antti
>>
>
> Will tidy up my commit and submit it to ML again.
>
> Oliver
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      reply	other threads:[~2012-09-19 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-18 22:22 [PATCH] Support for Asus MyCinema U3100Mini Plus (attempt 2) oliver
2012-09-18 22:42 ` Antti Palosaari
2012-09-19  9:52   ` Oliver Schinagl
2012-09-19 10:41     ` Antti Palosaari
2012-09-19 17:57       ` Oliver Schinagl
2012-09-19 18:00         ` Oliver Schinagl [this message]

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