From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: blauwirbel@gmail.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] qidl: add documentation
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 17:16:27 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <505CF54B.5060002@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1348236465-23124-18-git-send-email-mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
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On 09/21/2012 08:07 AM, Michael Roth wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> ---
> docs/qidl.txt | 347 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 347 insertions(+)
> create mode 100644 docs/qidl.txt
> +Specifying What/How State Gets Saved
> +---------------------------------
Should the --- match the header length in the previous line?
> +
> +By default, QIDL saves every field in a structure it sees. This provides
> +maximum correctness by default. However, device structures generally contain
> +state that reflects state that is in someway duplicated or not guest visible.
s/someway/some way/
> +This more often that not reflects design implementation details.
s/that/than/
> +
> +Since design implementation details change over time, saving this state makes
> +compatibility hard to maintain. The proper solution is to use an intermediate
> +protocol to handle cross-version compatibility (for instance, a QIDL-aware
> +implementation of VMState). But we can reduce churn and streamline the
> +serialization/deserialization process by explicitly marking fields with
> +information that QIDL can use to determine whether or not a particular field
> +will be serialized. However, a serializable device implementation that fails to
> +serialize state that is required to fully guest state is a broken one, so to
s/fully guest/fully restore guest/
> +avoid that there are very strict rules about when this is allowed, and what
> +needs to be done to ensure that this does not impact correctness.
> +
> +There are also occassions where we want to specify *how* a field is
s/occassions/occasions/
> +
> +It can be subtle whether a field is truly immutable. A good example is a
> +*QEMUTimer*. Timer's will usually have their timeout modified with a call to
s/Timer's/Timers/
> +
> +In our *SerialDevice* example, our *int_pending* flag is really derived from
> +two pieces of state. It is set based on whether interrupts are enabled in the
> +*ier* register and whether there is *THRE* flag is not set in the *lsr*
s/there is/the/
> +When reviewing the use of the broken marker, the following things should be
> +considered:
> +
> + 1. What are the ramifications of not sending this data field?
> +
> + 2. If the not sending this data field can cause data corruption or very poor
s/the not/not/
> + behavior within the guest, the broken marker is not appropriate to use.
> +
> + 3. Assigning a default value to a field can also be used to fix a broken field
> + without significantly impacting live migration compatibility.
> +
> +### qElsewhere fields
> +
> +In some cases state is saved-off when serializing a seperate device
s/seperate/separate/
--
Eric Blake eblake@redhat.com +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org
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Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-21 14:07 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] Add infrastructure for QIDL-based device serialization Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/22] qapi: qapi-visit.py -> qapi_visit.py so we can import Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/22] qapi: qapi-types.py -> qapi_types.py Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/22] qapi: qapi-commands.py -> qapi_commands.py Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/22] qapi: qapi_visit.py, make code useable as module Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/22] qapi: qapi_visit.py, support arrays and complex qapi definitions Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/22] qapi: qapi_visit.py, support generating static functions Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/22] qapi: qapi_visit.py, support for visiting non-pointer/embedded structs Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/22] qapi: add visitor interfaces for C arrays Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/22] qapi: QmpOutputVisitor, implement array handling Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/22] qapi: QmpInputVisitor, " Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/22] qapi: qapi.py, make json parser more robust Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/22] qapi: add open-coded visitor for struct tm types Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/22] qom-fuse: force single-threaded mode to avoid QMP races Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/22] qom-fuse: workaround for truncated properties > 4096 Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/22] module additions for schema registration Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/22] qdev: move Property-related declarations to qdev-properties.h Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/22] qidl: add documentation Michael Roth
2012-09-21 23:16 ` Eric Blake [this message]
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/22] qidl: add lexer library (based on QC parser) Michael Roth
2012-09-21 23:18 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-21 23:52 ` Michael Roth
2012-09-25 21:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/22] qidl: add C parser " Michael Roth
2012-09-21 23:19 ` Eric Blake
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/22] qidl: add QAPI-based code generator Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/22] qidl: qidl.h, definitions for qidl annotations Michael Roth
2012-09-21 14:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/22] qidl: unit tests and build infrastructure Michael Roth
2012-09-21 15:57 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] Add infrastructure for QIDL-based device serialization Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-21 16:24 ` Michael Roth
2012-09-22 14:33 ` Blue Swirl
2012-09-24 18:14 ` Michael Roth
2012-09-25 6:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 15:45 ` Michael Roth
2012-09-25 21:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26 9:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 10:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 10:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 15:12 ` Michael Roth
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