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X-Received-From: 74.125.82.49 X-BeenThere: grub-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: The development of GNU GRUB List-Id: The development of GNU GRUB List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:18:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig1F2CA596CB0DD1149B827446 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 26.09.2012 20:39, Chris Murphy wrote: >=20 > On Sep 26, 2012, at 12:22 PM, Andrey Borzenkov wrote: >=20 >> One problem is, where it lands depends on whether it is removable >> install or not and whether distributor is set or not. How you describe= >> it in single help line? It rather belongs to grub documentation. >=20 > It would be useful in the --help version to note if it's required or no= t on UEFI systems. Right now it's ambiguous if it's a necessary option or= not. If the landing place of grub.efi is variable, merely say "grub.efi = installation location depends on destination device and distribution". >=20 > And yes, it rather belongs to grub documentation which is why I find it= hilarious a GRUB developer is writing RTFM when well prior to that it sh= ould be WTFM. The GRUB manual is a C.F. of mayhem and obscurity as it is,= but it's a waste land of nothingness when it comes to UEFI. So RTFM? Tha= t's pure GRUB comedy. Maybe it's an inside joke to tell people to go read= non-existent documentation. >=20 It's an empty discussion since I have no time to write this doc and nobody else proposed himself to do it. Until this changes this discussion has no point. > Chris Murphy >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Grub-devel mailing list > Grub-devel@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel >=20 --=20 Regards Vladimir '=CF=86-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko --------------enig1F2CA596CB0DD1149B827446 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREKAAYFAlBjXEAACgkQNak7dOguQgnZ/QD8Dh/8OiZ7kGdnakLPnU0fbWVq bII2eM8gRAgNgAIgaycA/jeVYMO3pexixjNDGwo2SBt61Y4SRPkGllbOcAd8NL7a =1VTg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig1F2CA596CB0DD1149B827446--