Hi Cedric, On 09/28/2012 03:03 AM, Cedric Jehasse wrote: > Hi, > > Immediately after the 'Present' property changes to true on > org.ofono.SimManager, i read the 'PinRequired' property. Because the > sim is not yet initialized this is set to "none". It would be nice if > this was set to "notinitialized", or if there would be an additional > property to know if sim initialization is done. > I do admit this is a slight inconsistency in the API. However, PinRequired=none was never meant to signify that the SIM has been initialized. If you want that, then you should monitor the 'SubscriberIdentity' property. Once that property goes live you can assume that the SIM has been initialized to the point that other tasks can be performed, e.g. going Online. If the PIN is required then the PinRequired will at some point go to state other than 'none'. In general oFono does not use 'unknown' states for any properties unless that is an explicit state that can be obtained from the network. The best I can suggest right now is that we can make PinRequired an optional property; e.g. it will not be present until the PIN has been queried. Regards, -Denis