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From: Chris Ferron <chris.e.ferron at linux.intel.com>
To: powertop@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [Powertop] [PATCH v2 2/2] Add stubs to support Android platform
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 09:54:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5065D646.7000903@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20120926230020.GA2945@swordfish.datadirect.datadirectnet.com

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On 09/26/2012 04:00 PM, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (09/27/12 00:09), Magnus Fromreide wrote:
>> That they fail to throw exceptions from new is no reason to disable
>> set_new_handler, the newhandler is called by the runtime on out of memory
>> and is intended to allow the user to try fixing the issue. This is true for
>> the noexcept version as well. Is this yet another incompatibility?
>>
>
> right. the funny thing is, guess what, gcc actually has "#ifdef __EXCEPTIONS"
> within operator new()
>
>   44 _GLIBCXX_WEAK_DEFINITION void *
>   45 operator new (std::size_t sz) _GLIBCXX_THROW (std::bad_alloc)
>   46 {
>   47   void *p;
>   48
>   49   /* malloc (0) is unpredictable; avoid it.  */
>   50   if (sz == 0)
>   51     sz = 1;
>   52   p = (void *) malloc (sz);
>   53   while (p == 0)
>   54     {
>   55       new_handler handler = __new_handler;
>   56       if (! handler)
>   57 #ifdef __EXCEPTIONS
>   58         throw bad_alloc();
>   59 #else
>   60         std::abort();
>   61 #endif
>   62       handler ();
>   63       p = (void *) malloc (sz);
>   64     }
>   65
>   66   return p;
>   67 }
>
>
> It tourned out, that __EXCEPTIONS with us (for operator new and STL) since 2001
> "2001-02-15  Benjamin Kosnik  <bkoz(a)redhat.com>"
>
> So, I guess this is how Google has came up with the idea of C++ w/o exceptions.
>
> Wow.
>
> 	-ss
Well to be fair, not that I agree any-more, but years ago it was common 
practice to disable exceptions (via the compiler) for C++ in very 
specialized "REAL" "Embedded Systems". This practice was problematic in 
that you needed to have a will defined Error handling design, but saved 
space. Honestly, its been a long time since I worked on anything that 
has a "REAL" size requirement, so I don't see the point. On the other 
hand in some Embedded system  The whole reason to using your own error 
handling design was that in a real embedded system, design 
considerations like, uptime, failure control and ability to eliminate 
undefined behaviour were KEY. So taking the time to design was already a 
given, and size was not a single point factor. (not arguing the C vs C++ 
point here BTW)  So for what ever reason the decision to use C++ happens 
for an embedded project. Problem was C++ exception were good for insure 
the program didn't fail, but detailed failure handling became 
problematic. Sure you could avoid general failures but often especially 
in an embedded system you found yourself with undefined behaviour that 
was nearly imposable to handle. OK in general history over :)

Unfortunately this practice has been inherited still today in segments 
of other then embedded. Most commonly you may see this practice in 
specialized segments like gaming consoles. Such practices are still in 
valid use in such device as switches, telecommunications, avionic 
systems, weapon systems, medical devices, ect.

So I have an understanding of the issues, "some" of its history, and 
valid uses. But in my opinion this is still a bad implementation for 
anyone distributing a general operating system.



>
>   
>>> +/* define stubs for C++ exception handling */
>>> +#define try     	if (true)
>>> +#define catch(x) 	if (false)
>> If you should do this then I think it should be spelled
>>
>> #define try if (true)
>> #define catch else if (false)
>>
>> in order to not break
>>
>> if (condition)
>>      try {
>>      } catch(type variable) {
>>      }
>>
>> but it still breaks the syntax for it which can be shown by simply adding an
>> else clause to the if statement.
>>
>> Oh, and furthermore I consider that Android needs a C++ compiler.
>>
>>> +
>>> +/* Define __NR_perf_event_open if not already defined */
>>> +#if __arm__
>>> +#ifndef __NR_perf_event_open
>>> +#define __NR_perf_event_open    364
>>> +#endif
>>> +#endif
>>> +
>>> +/*
>>> + * bionic libc mbstowcs version returns zero when max parameter
>>> + * is zero, resulting infinite loops in powertop source. Add
>>> + * mbstowcs wrapper to fix it.
>>> + */
>>> +namespace pandroid {
>>> +	extern "C" inline size_t mbstowcs(wchar_t *dst,
>>> +			const char *src, size_t len)
>>> +	{
>>> +		return ::mbstowcs(dst, src, ::strlen(src));
>>> +	}
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +#define mbstowcs(dst, src, len)		pandroid::mbstowcs(dst, src, len)
>> Still broken.
>> If dst isn't a NULL pointer then len is the limit on the length of the
>> destination buffer. In throwing away this you open up for stack smashing
>> attacks.
>>
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             reply	other threads:[~2012-09-28 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-28 16:54 Chris Ferron [this message]
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2012-09-28 17:21 [Powertop] [PATCH v2 2/2] Add stubs to support Android platform Chris Ferron
2012-09-28 17:10 Sergey Senozhatsky
2012-09-26 23:00 Sergey Senozhatsky
2012-09-26 22:09 Magnus Fromreide
2012-09-24 13:28 Rajagopal Venkat

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