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From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>
Cc: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()")
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:00:13 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <506BF795.7000604@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1210031013110.23544@pobox.suse.cz>

On 10/03/2012 01:49 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Oct 2012, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> 
>> On 10/03/2012 01:13 PM, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2012, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> 	CPU 0				CPU 1
>>>>>>> 	kmem_cache_destroy()
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the get_online_cpus() right here at CPU0 before
>>>>>> calling mutex_lock(slab_mutex)? How can the cpu_up() proceed
>>>>>> on CPU1?? I still don't get it... :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (kmem_cache_destroy() uses get/put_online_cpus() around acquiring
>>>>>> and releasing slab_mutex).
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is that there is a CPU-hotplug notifier for slab, which
>>>>> establishes hotplug->slab.
>>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>>>  Then having kmem_cache_destroy() call
>>>>> rcu_barrier() under the lock
>>>>
>>>> Ah, that's where I disagree. kmem_cache_destroy() *cannot* proceed at
>>>> this point in time, because it has invoked get_online_cpus()! It simply
>>>> cannot be running past that point in the presence of a running hotplug
>>>> notifier! So, kmem_cache_destroy() should have been sleeping on the
>>>> hotplug lock, waiting for the notifier to release it, no?
>>>
>>> Please look carefully at the scenario again. kmem_cache_destroy() calls 
>>> get_online_cpus() before the hotplug notifier even starts. Hence it has no 
>>> reason to block there (noone is holding hotplug lock).
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.
>>
>>> *Then* hotplug notifier fires up, succeeds obtaining hotplug lock, 
>>
>> Ah, that's the problem! The hotplug reader-writer synchronization is not just
>> via a simple mutex. Its a refcount underneath. If kmem_cache_destroy() incremented
>> the refcount, the hotplug-writer (cpu_up) will release the hotplug lock immediately
>> and try again. IOW, a hotplug-reader (kmem_cache_destroy()) and a hotplug-writer
>> (cpu_up) can *NEVER* run concurrently. If they do, we are totally screwed!
>>
>>
>> Take a look at the hotplug lock acquire function at the writer side:
>>
>> static void cpu_hotplug_begin(void)
>> {
>>         cpu_hotplug.active_writer = current;
>>
>>         for (;;) {
>>                 mutex_lock(&cpu_hotplug.lock);
>>                 if (likely(!cpu_hotplug.refcount))   <================ This one!
>>                         break;
>>                 __set_current_state(TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
>>                 mutex_unlock(&cpu_hotplug.lock);
>>                 schedule();
>>         }   
>> }
> 
> I acutally just came to the same conclusion (7 hours of sleep later, the 
> mind indeed seems to be brighter ... what a poet I am).
> 
> Lockdep doesn't know about this semantics of cpu_hotplug_begin(), and 
> therefore gets confused by the fact that mutual exclusion is actually 
> achieved through the refcount instead of mutex (and the same apparently 
> happened to me).

No, that's not the problem. Lockdep is fine. The calltrace clearly shows that
our refcounting has messed up somewhere. As a result, we really *are* running
a hotplug-reader and a hotplug-writer at the same time! We really need to fix
*that*! So please try the second debug patch I sent just now (with the BUG_ON()
in put_online_cpus()). We need to know who is calling put_online_cpus() twice
and fix that culprit!

> 
> So right, now I agree that the deadlock scenario I have come up with is 
> indeed bogus (*), and we just have to annotate this fact to lockdep 
> somehow.

Yes, the deadlock scenario is bogus, but the refcounting leak is for real
and needs fixing.

> 
> And I actually believe that moving the slab_mutex around in 
> kmem_cache_destroy() is a good anotation (maybe worth a separate comment 
> in the code), as it not only makes the lockdep false positive go away, but 
> it also reduces the mutex hold time.
>

I'm fine with this, but the real problem is elsewhere, like I mentioned above.
This one is only a good-to-have, not a fix.
 
> (*) I have seen machine locking hard reproducibly, but that was only with 
> additional Paul's patch, so I guess the lock order there actually was 
> wrong

If refcounting was working fine, Paul's patch wouldn't have caused *any* issues.
With that patch in place, the 2 places where rcu_barrier() get invoked (ie.,
kmem_cache_destroy() and deactivate_locked_super()) both start waiting on
get_online_cpus() until the slab cpu hotplug notifier as well as the entire
cpu_up operation completes. Absolutely no problem in that! So the fact that
you are seeing lock-ups here is another indication that the problem is really
elsewhere!

Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat


  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-03  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-02 16:14 Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()") Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 17:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-02 21:27   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 21:49     ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 21:58       ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-02 23:31         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-02 23:48           ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  0:15             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03  0:45               ` [PATCH] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() (was Re: Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()")) Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  0:45                 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  3:41                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03  3:41                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03  3:50                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  3:50                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  6:08                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  6:08                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  8:21                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  8:21                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  9:46                 ` [PATCH v2] [RFC] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  9:46                   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 12:22                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 12:22                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 12:53                     ` [PATCH] CPU hotplug, debug: Detect imbalance between get_online_cpus() and put_online_cpus() Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 12:53                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 21:13                       ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-03 21:13                         ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-04  6:16                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-04  6:16                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-05  3:24                           ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2012-10-05  3:24                             ` Yasuaki Ishimatsu
2012-10-05  5:35                             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-05  5:35                               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 14:50                     ` [PATCH v2] [RFC] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 14:50                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 14:55                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 14:55                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 16:00                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 16:00                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03 14:17                   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-03 14:17                     ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-03 14:15                 ` [PATCH] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() (was Re: Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()")) Christoph Lameter
2012-10-03 14:15                   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-03 14:34                   ` [PATCH v3] mm, slab: release slab_mutex earlier in kmem_cache_destroy() Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 14:34                     ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 15:00                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 15:00                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 15:05                       ` [PATCH v4] " Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 15:05                         ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03 15:49                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 15:49                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03 18:49                         ` David Rientjes
2012-10-03 18:49                           ` David Rientjes
2012-10-08  7:26                           ` [PATCH] [RESEND] " Jiri Kosina
2012-10-08  7:26                             ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-10  6:27                             ` Pekka Enberg
2012-10-10  6:27                               ` Pekka Enberg
2012-10-03  3:59           ` Lockdep complains about commit 1331e7a1bb ("rcu: Remove _rcu_barrier() dependency on __stop_machine()") Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  4:07             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03  4:15               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-02 20:39 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-02 22:17   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  3:35     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  3:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-10-03  4:04         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  7:43           ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  8:11             ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-10-03  8:19               ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  8:30                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-10-03  9:24                   ` Jiri Kosina
2012-10-03  9:58                     ` Srivatsa S. Bhat

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