From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Ping Fan Liu <pingfank@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Block I/O outside the QEMU global mutex was "Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts""
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:18:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <507415FF.3050402@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50741218.90000@redhat.com>
On 2012-10-09 14:01, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> Il 09/10/2012 13:55, Avi Kivity ha scritto:
>> Oh, agree 100% raw + native aio wants to bypass coroutines/threads
>> completely.
>
> Even posix-aio-compat can bypass coroutines.
>
>> We could perhaps even avoid refcounting, by shutting down the device
>> thread as part of hotunplug.
>
> Yes, you "just" join the thread, ask it to exit, and not hot-unplug
> until it's done.
>
>> [could we also avoid refcounting by doing the equivalent of
>> stop_machine() during hotunplug?]
>
> That's quite an interesting alternative.
Not sure about the full context of this discussion, but I played with
"stop-machine" (pause_all_vcpus) recently. The problem is, at least ATM,
that it drops the BQL to wait for those threads, and that creates an
unexpected rescheduling point over which a lot of code stumbles. But if
this case here is about new, accordingly written code that is also not
called from unprepared corners, it may work.
Jan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-09 12:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-09-25 12:55 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts" Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/17] build: do not rely on indirect inclusion of qemu-config.h Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/17] event_notifier: enable it to use pipes Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-08 7:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/17] event_notifier: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/17] aio: change qemu_aio_set_fd_handler to return void Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/17] aio: provide platform-independent API Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/17] aio: introduce AioContext, move bottom halves there Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26 6:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/17] aio: add I/O handlers to the AioContext interface Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/17] aio: add non-blocking variant of aio_wait Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 21:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/17] aio: prepare for introducing GSource-based dispatch Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26 6:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 6:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-29 11:28 ` Blue Swirl
2012-10-01 6:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/17] aio: add Win32 implementation Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/17] aio: make AioContexts GSources Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26 6:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/17] aio: add aio_notify Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/17] aio: call aio_notify after setting I/O handlers Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/17] main-loop: use GSource to poll AIO file descriptors Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-26 6:38 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/17] main-loop: use aio_notify for qemu_notify_event Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/17] aio: clean up now-unused functions Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-25 22:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-09-25 12:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/17] linux-aio: use event notifiers Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 12:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts" Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 13:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-26 14:31 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-26 15:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-09-27 7:11 ` Kevin Wolf
2012-09-27 7:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-08 11:39 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-08 13:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 9:08 ` [Qemu-devel] Block I/O outside the QEMU global mutex was "Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] Support for multiple "AIO contexts"" Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-09 9:26 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 10:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 10:52 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 11:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 11:55 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 12:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 12:18 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2012-10-09 12:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 12:22 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 13:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 13:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 14:24 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 14:41 ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 14:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2012-10-09 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 15:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 15:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-09 16:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-09 18:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 7:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-10 12:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-10 13:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-10 14:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-11 12:28 ` Kevin Wolf
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