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From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Srikar <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Nikunj A. Dadhania" <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>, Jiannan Ouyang <ouyang@cs.pitt.edu>,
	chegu vinod <chegu_vinod@hp.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <srivatsa.vaddagiri@gmail.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/2] kvm: Handle undercommitted guest case in PLE handler
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:40:20 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <507BFD2C.3010808@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1349897783.22418.15.camel@oc2024037011.ibm.com>

On 10/11/2012 01:06 AM, Andrew Theurer wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 23:24 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>> On 10/10/2012 08:29 AM, Andrew Theurer wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 00:21 +0530, Raghavendra K T wrote:
>>>> * Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> [2012-10-04 17:00:28]:
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/04/2012 03:07 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 2012-10-04 at 14:41 +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>>>>>
[...]
>>> A big concern I have (if this is 1x overcommit) for ebizzy is that it
>>> has just terrible scalability to begin with.  I do not think we should
>>> try to optimize such a bad workload.
>>>
>>
>> I think my way of running dbench has some flaw, so I went to ebizzy.
>> Could you let me know how you generally run dbench?
>
> I mount a tmpfs and then specify that mount for dbench to run on.  This
> eliminates all IO.  I use a 300 second run time and number of threads is
> equal to number of vcpus.  All of the VMs of course need to have a
> synchronized start.
>
> I would also make sure you are using a recent kernel for dbench, where
> the dcache scalability is much improved.  Without any lock-holder
> preemption, the time in spin_lock should be very low:
>
>
>>      21.54%      78016         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] copy_user_generic_unrolled
>>       3.51%      12723         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] __strchr_sse42
>>       2.81%      10176         dbench  dbench              [.] child_run
>>       2.54%       9203         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] _raw_spin_lock
>>       2.33%       8423         dbench  dbench              [.] next_token
>>       2.02%       7335         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] __d_lookup_rcu
>>       1.89%       6850         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] __strstr_sse42
>>       1.53%       5537         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] __memset_sse2
>>       1.47%       5337         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] link_path_walk
>>       1.40%       5084         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] kmem_cache_alloc
>>       1.38%       5009         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] memmove
>>       1.24%       4496         dbench  libc-2.12.so        [.] vfprintf
>>       1.15%       4169         dbench  [kernel.kallsyms]   [k] __audit_syscall_exit
>

Hi Andrew,
I ran the test with dbench with tmpfs. I do not see any improvements in
dbench for 16k ple window.

So it seems apart from ebizzy no workload benefited by that. and I
agree that, it may not be good to optimize for ebizzy.
I shall drop changing to 16k default window and continue with other
original patch series. Need to experiment with latest kernel.

(PS: Thanks for pointing towards, perf in latest kernel. It works fine.)

Results:
dbench run for 120 sec 30 sec warmup 8 iterations using tmpfs
base = 3.6.0-rc5 with ple handler optimization patch.

x => base + ple_window = 4k
+ => base + ple_window = 16k
* => base + ple_gap = 0

dbench 1x overcommit case
=========================
     N           Min           Max        Median           Avg        Stddev
x   8        5322.5       5519.05       5482.71     5461.0962     63.522276
+   8       5255.45       5530.55       5496.94     5455.2137     93.070363
*   8       5350.85       5477.81      5408.065     5418.4338     44.762697


dbench 2x overcommit case
==========================

     N           Min           Max        Median           Avg        Stddev
x   8       3054.32       3194.47       3137.33      3132.625     54.491615
+   8        3040.8       3148.87      3088.615     3088.1887     32.862336
*   8       3031.51       3171.99        3083.6     3097.4612     50.526977

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-15 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-21 11:59 [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving undercommit,overcommit scenarios in PLE handler Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] kvm: Handle undercommitted guest case " Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 13:02   ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 17:24     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 15:41       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:06         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:14           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:25             ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25  8:09           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25  8:54             ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 13:49               ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27  7:44               ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27  8:59                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27  9:11                   ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27  9:33                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27  9:58                       ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:04                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 10:08                           ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-27 10:15                             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]               ` <CAJocwcf+8u84_yDC-PK0Yni93YSTWzYvr69nq6b3pNv1MwVJzQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-27  8:50                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 11:26                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 12:06                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-28 18:18                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-30  8:16                         ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                   ` <CAJocwcc19F+PtsQ5okGMvYeVnkEigpZRpwWY9JgeRPFqfcVoXA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-09-28  6:16                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-30  8:18                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-30 11:07                         ` Gleb Natapov
2012-09-30 11:13                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-03 14:17                             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-03 14:56                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04  7:29                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-10-05  8:36                                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-07  9:51                                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25  7:36         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25  8:12           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 14:21             ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-09-27  8:43               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-03 12:22         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-03 17:05           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 10:49             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-04 12:41               ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 13:07                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-04 15:00                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-09 18:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10  2:59                       ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-10 17:54                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 18:03                           ` David Ahern
2012-10-10 18:14                             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 19:36                           ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-15 12:10                             ` Raghavendra K T [this message]
2012-10-15 14:34                               ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-19  8:30                                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-19 13:31                                   ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-10 14:24                       ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-10 17:43                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-10 19:27                           ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-11 17:13                             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-11 10:39                         ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-10-18 12:39                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-19  8:19                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-04 14:41                 ` Andrew Theurer
2012-10-05  9:06                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-05  9:02                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 11:33   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 11:40     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 12:00 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] kvm: Be courteous to other VMs in overcommitted scenario " Raghavendra K T
2012-09-21 13:22   ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 13:46   ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-09-21 13:52     ` Rik van Riel
2012-09-21 17:45       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 13:43         ` Takuya Yoshikawa
2012-09-24 15:26   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 15:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 15:43       ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 15:52         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 15:58           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:10               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:21                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-25 10:11                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-21 13:18 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] kvm: Improving undercommit,overcommit scenarios " Chegu Vinod
2012-09-21 17:36   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24  8:42     ` Dor Laor
2012-09-24 12:02       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25 15:00         ` Dor Laor
2012-09-26 12:27           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-09-27 10:07             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27  9:49           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 10:28             ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-27 10:44               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 11:31               ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 10:33             ` Dor Laor
2012-09-24 11:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 11:52   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 12:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 13:29       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 13:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 14:16           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-25 13:40             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27  8:36               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 11:23                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-27 12:03                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-27 12:25                     ` Andrew Theurer
2012-09-28  5:38                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-28  5:45                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-09-28  6:03                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-28  8:38                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-28 11:40                       ` Andrew Theurer
2012-09-28 14:11                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-28 14:13                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-30  8:24                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-03 14:29                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-03 17:25                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-04 10:56                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-10-04 12:44                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-10-05  9:04                             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-09-24 15:51           ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-24 16:03             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-24 16:20               ` Avi Kivity
2012-09-26 13:20                 ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-26 13:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-26 13:39                     ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-26 13:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-26 12:57       ` Andrew Jones
2012-09-27 10:21         ` Raghavendra K T

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