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From: Mark Woodward <markw@mohawksoft.com>
To: "Bryn M. Reeves" <bmr@redhat.com>
Cc: Linda Walsh <lvm@tlinx.org>,
	LVM general discussion and development <linux-lvm@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] access or interface to list of blocks that have, changed	via C.O.W.?
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:15:34 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <507D4FE6.7020803@mohawksoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <506DA0B4.5020208@redhat.com>

On 10/04/2012 10:44 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
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> On 10/04/2012 11:17 AM, Mark Woodward wrote:
>> I was going to try to answer in line, but decided that it would be
>> too much work. There are utilities to extract the exception table
>> out of the LVM2 snapshot, and if you can code in almost any
>> language, you can write your own. It is dead simple. You can google
>> for ddsnap and zumastore to
> ddsnap was the Zumastor snapshot tool which uses a different in-kernel
> snapshot target and metadata format. It does not share code with
> current (or historic afaik) LVM2/device-mapper and has been dead for a
> number of years (last commits around 2008).
>
>> get the code. It old and not supported currently, but still works.
>> I
> Really? I'd be surprised if it even builds against modern kernels or
> device-mapper.
>
>> The format of the array is simple: old_address (The offset in the
>> volume) followed by the new_address (the offset in the COW device).
>> An array of all the "old_address" values is the changed block list.
>> You don't even need to worry about the data if you can really get a
>> file list by blocks.
> If you really want to poke into the CoW store format I'd start by
> reading dm-snap-persistent.c which is the traditional device-mapper
> snapshot format.
>
> Snapshots using the thinp target use the metadata format described in
> dm-thin-metadata.c.

Sorry, I got pulled away a bit.

Let me understand. The CoW format changed, but the header signature 
stayed the same? I'm having a bit of an issue understanding this. The 
"old" LVM format CoW device had the signature "SnAp" and that had a 
fairly well understood layout.  Has this or has this not changed? I had 
some code that worked in the 2.6 series of kernels using the LVM tools. 
However, when I run it on a later kernel version (3.2.0) it seems not to 
work. I am more than willing to say its a bug on my end, but can you 
clarify whether or not it is expected that this format would change? I 
am planning a server upgrade and I rely on the snapshot format for my 
differential backup tools.

As for the thin provisioned snapshot I have been long waiting for this. 
Is it "production ready?" if so, in what kernel version moving forward?
>
> Regards,
> Bryn.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-16 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.18903.1349274978.3548.linux-lvm@redhat.com>
2012-10-03 15:42 ` [linux-lvm] access or interface to list of blocks that have, changed via C.O.W.? Mark Woodward
2012-10-04  2:52   ` Linda Walsh
2012-10-04  3:41     ` Mark Woodward
2012-10-04  5:05       ` Linda Walsh
2012-10-04 10:17         ` Mark Woodward
2012-10-04 14:44           ` Bryn M. Reeves
2012-10-04 15:02             ` Mark Woodward
2012-10-04 22:00               ` Stuart D Gathman
2012-10-05  9:39                 ` Bryn M. Reeves
2012-10-05  9:26               ` Bryn M. Reeves
2012-10-05 11:21                 ` Mark Woodward
2012-10-16 12:15             ` Mark Woodward [this message]
2012-10-17 10:20               ` Lars Ellenberg
2012-09-28  2:51 [linux-lvm] access or interface to list of blocks that have " Linda Walsh

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