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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Cc: Clemens Kolbitsch <kolbitsch@lastline.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Disabling KVM "on the fly"
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:29:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <507FA1C6.2010807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <507EFADA.7080700@siemens.com>

Il 17/10/2012 20:37, Jan Kiszka ha scritto:
> On 2012-10-17 18:44, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 17/10/2012 18:37, Clemens Kolbitsch ha scritto:
>>> Guys,
>>>
>>> I know this is question might seem a bit odd, but I'm curious:
>>>
>>> Has anyone ever tried to write code to disable KVM on the fly / is it
>>> at all possible? I have a situation where I need to use TCG for
>>> certain parts of the code, but would love to have acceleration for
>>> everything else. My idea was to pause the VM, then use the
>>> snapshotting mechanism to dump the state, and then to resume the
>>> snapshot, but writing the KVM state into the non-KVM structures.
>>
>> As a start, you can try using "migrate exec:cat>foo.save" with a KVM
>> machine and "-incoming 'exec:cat foo.save'" with a TCG machine.  The
>> main problem should be that TCG doesn't implement kvmclock.
>>
>> If you disable the KVM interrupt controller and timer (which is just an
>> implementation detail, not a hardware difference),
> 
> Unnecessary. Both models (KVM in-kernel and QEMU userspace) are
> compatible - in the absence of bugs.

He wants to really switch it on the fly---not just migrate out and
in---and for that you need to disable the KVM-specific devices.

> But loading a KVM image into TCG lets non-trival guests lock up. Likely
> due to differences in the CPU virtualization/emulation (MSRs...).

Perhaps that can be mitigated by using an older machine model.  Start
with something simple like a pentium2 and work up from there...

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-18  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-17 16:37 [Qemu-devel] Disabling KVM "on the fly" Clemens Kolbitsch
2012-10-17 16:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-17 18:37   ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-18  6:29     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2012-10-18 17:24       ` Jan Kiszka
2012-10-18 17:38         ` Clemens Kolbitsch

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