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From: "Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko" <phcoder@gmail.com>
To: The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: for ppc, include all modules in the core image
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:53:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5085880D.3020408@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121022133017.Horde.UPexMZir309QhYKpIRXChBA@imap.linux.ibm.com>

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On 22.10.2012 19:30, Paulo Flabiano Smorigo/Brazil/IBM wrote:

> 
> Quoting Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com>:
> 
>> On 16.10.2012 12:28, Paulo Flabiano Smorigo/Brazil/IBM wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> This patch implements the solution suggested by Gustavo Luiz Duarte
>>> <gustavold@linux.vnet.ibm.com>:
>>>
>>> Adding more modules to be built-in to the grub core ELF is easy. It is a
>>> parameter passed by grub2-install to grub2-mkimage. However, there is a
>>> downside
>>> on adding many modules to the core ELF: they are fully initialized in
>>> the grub's
>>> first stage. It means you could hit a bug on a module you don't need and
>>> end up
>>> with a non-bootable system.
>>>
>>> Another downside is that you wouldn't get updates for these built-in
>>> modules, as
>>> updating the grub2 package only updates the modules residing in /boot
>>> and not
>>> the grub core ELF in the PReP partition.
>>>
>>> A proper solution would be to add to grub the ability of having built-in
>>> *inactive* modules which would be loaded and initialized only on demand
>>> (i.e.
>>> explicitly calling the insmod command).
>>>
>>
>> This is what memdisk does (i.a.). Why do you need anything else?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Grub-devel mailing list
>>> Grub-devel@gnu.org
>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/grub-devel
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Regards
>> Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
> 
> Hi phcoder,
> 
> Thanks for the reply. I studied memdisk and tried to use grub-mkstandalone
> but the idea used in this patch is different. It's like a plan B just in
> case /boot isn't found. It gives the "grub rescue" a new level of recovery,
> increasing the chances to fix the system. This extra modules is stored in a
> different area and will *only* be used in this case.
> 
> Otherwise, the normal modules, inside /boot, will be used normally and If
> there is an update or if grub.cfg changes, the new files will be used.
> 

Can't you attain the same result with memdisk but not pointing root to it?
This part is size-critical and we need a good reason to put new features.

> Best regards,



-- 
Regards
Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-22 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-16 10:28 for ppc, include all modules in the core image Paulo Flabiano Smorigo/Brazil/IBM
2012-10-18 18:08 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2012-10-22 17:30   ` Paulo Flabiano Smorigo/Brazil/IBM
2012-10-22 17:53     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko [this message]
2013-02-02  6:33       ` Andrey Borzenkov

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