From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Andreas Faerber <afaerber@suse.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] add paravirtualization hwrng support
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:34:19 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <508F58CB.9090509@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <508E4215.6050803@redhat.com>
On 10/29/2012 01:45 AM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> First, hwrng is only one of the sources used by rngd. It can also
>> (currently) use RDRAND or TPM; additional sources are likely to be added
>> in the future.
>>
>> Second, the harvesting of environmental noise -- timings -- is not as
>> good in a VM as on plain hardware, so for the no-hwrng case it is better
>> for this to be done in the host than in the VM.
>
> Neither of these make /dev/random with virtio-rng-pci worse than without
> (as would be the case if you fed /dev/urandom). And migration works.
>
> This, and avoiding denial of service for the host's /dev/random, is all
> I care about at this time.
>
> There is always time to change defaults to something better.
Your logic are roughly on the level with the people who caused the
Debian bug. You are proposing something utterly reckless. Sorry,
please stop.
-hpa
--
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-30 4:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-26 14:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] add paravirtualization hwrng support Anthony Liguori
2012-10-26 14:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] vl: add -object option to create QOM objects from the command line Anthony Liguori
2012-10-26 14:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] object: add object_property_add_bool (v2) Anthony Liguori
2012-10-26 14:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] rng: add RndBackend abstract object class Anthony Liguori
2012-10-26 14:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] rng-random: add an RNG backend that uses /dev/random Anthony Liguori
2012-10-26 14:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] rng-egd: introduce EGD compliant RNG backend Anthony Liguori
2012-10-26 14:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] virtio-rng: hardware random number generator device Anthony Liguori
2012-10-26 15:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] add paravirtualization hwrng support Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-26 15:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-26 16:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-26 18:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2012-10-26 18:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-29 6:23 ` Amit Shah
2012-10-30 4:32 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-26 18:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-26 19:07 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-26 19:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-26 19:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-26 20:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-29 8:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-30 4:34 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-10-30 4:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-30 9:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-30 21:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-31 7:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-31 14:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-10-31 14:27 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-26 18:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2012-10-29 7:01 ` Amit Shah
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