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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mario Gzuk <mariogzuk@technikz.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] x86, cleanups: Simplify sync_core() in the case of no CPUID
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 10:03:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B8F4D7.2010204@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFziiaWt1nU-EPKc=tFd0EvSm2iSBJ2MAqxNiWP5O0mv+w@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/30/2012 09:01 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:24 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thinking about it some more, there is another reason to not do this,
>> which is that we don't want this particular CPUID to be paravirtualized;
>> we're after the synchronizing side effect, not the CPUID return value
>> itself.
>>
>> So let's leave it as a primitive; it gets too confusing otherwise.
>
> Hmm. The virtualization issue brings up another point: do we *really*
> want to use cpuid for serialization at all?
>

Well, the grand total of serializing instructions are:

INVD, INVEPT, INVLPG, INVVPID, LGDT, LIDT, LLDT, LTR, MOV to CR, MOV to 
DR, WBINVD, WRMSR, CPUID, IRET, RSM.

It doesn't really leave a lot of wiggle room, and in the microcode case, 
the use of CPUID level 1 is actually mandated (presumably to get a 
uniform sequence for validation purposes.)

> From all of the above, the alternatives case is kinda relevant for virt
> where we do text_poke_early in a loop for every alternative section
> so this could pile up to a bunch of vmexits depending on the emulated
> hardware. Might be worth a replacement if it is noticeable in guests.

This is still boot time, and I really doubt it is measurable in the long 
run.  Yes, exists suck, but at least CPUID is generally a quick exit, 
since all the relevant state is in registers.

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-30 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-28 19:50 [PATCH 0/8] RFC: Remove 386 support H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 19:50 ` [PATCH 1/8] x86, 386 removal: Remove CONFIG_M386 from Kconfig H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-01  0:34   ` [tip:x86/nuke386] " tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 19:50 ` [PATCH 2/8] x86, 386 removal: Remove CONFIG_CMPXCHG H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-01  0:35   ` [tip:x86/nuke386] " tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 19:50 ` [PATCH 3/8] x86, 386 removal: Remove CONFIG_XADD H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 20:30   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-01  0:36   ` [tip:x86/nuke386] " tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 19:50 ` [PATCH 4/8] x86, 386 removal: Remove CONFIG_BSWAP H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-01  0:37   ` [tip:x86/nuke386] " tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 19:50 ` [PATCH 5/8] x86, 386 removal: Remove CONFIG_INVLPG H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-01  0:38   ` [tip:x86/nuke386] " tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 19:50 ` [PATCH 6/8] x86, 386 removal: Remove CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 20:52   ` Alan Cox
2012-11-28 23:11     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-01  0:42     ` [tip:x86/nuke386] x86, 386 removal: Document Nx586 as a 386 and thus unsupported tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-01  0:39   ` [tip:x86/nuke386] x86, 386 removal: Remove CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 19:50 ` [PATCH 7/8] x86, 386 removal: Remove CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-01  0:40   ` [tip:x86/nuke386] " tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 19:50 ` [PATCH 8/8] x86, cleanups: Simplify sync_core() in the case of no CPUID H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-28 20:41   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-29  0:14     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-29  9:13       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-29 21:06         ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-29 21:18           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-29 21:20             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-29 21:31               ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-29 21:24     ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-29 21:34       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-30 17:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-11-30 17:28         ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-30 18:03         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-11-30 18:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-11-30 18:40             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-01  0:41   ` [tip:x86/nuke386] " tip-bot for H. Peter Anvin

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