From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from co9outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (co9ehsobe004.messaging.microsoft.com [207.46.163.27]) by yocto-www.yoctoproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9C9E006C6 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail76-co9-R.bigfish.com (10.236.132.252) by CO9EHSOBE014.bigfish.com (10.236.130.77) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:05:35 +0000 Received: from mail76-co9 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail76-co9-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87540602E7; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:05:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:160.33.194.231; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:usculsndmail04v.am.sony.com; RD:mail04.sonyusa.com; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -11 X-BigFish: VPS-11(zzbb2dI98dI9371I179dN1432I1418Izz1de0h1202h1d1ah1d2ahzz177df4h17326ah8275dhz2fh2a8h668h839h93fhd25hf0ah1288h12a5h12a9h12bdh137ah13b6h1441h1504h1537h153bh162dh1631h1155h) Received-SPF: pass (mail76-co9: domain of am.sony.com designates 160.33.194.231 as permitted sender) client-ip=160.33.194.231; envelope-from=tim.bird@am.sony.com; helo=usculsndmail04v.am.sony.com ; .am.sony.com ; Received: from mail76-co9 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail76-co9 (MessageSwitch) id 1354583133317272_26538; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CO9EHSMHS021.bigfish.com (unknown [10.236.132.228]) by mail76-co9.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC7840165; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from usculsndmail04v.am.sony.com (160.33.194.231) by CO9EHSMHS021.bigfish.com (10.236.130.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:05:32 +0000 Received: from usculsndmail13v.am.sony.com (usculsndmail13v.am.sony.com [146.215.230.104]) by usculsndmail04v.am.sony.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qB415VrA009942; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:05:31 GMT Received: from mail1x.sjc.in.sel.sony.com (mail4.sjc.in.sel.sony.com [43.134.1.112]) by usculsndmail13v.am.sony.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qB415U5I010073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:05:31 GMT Received: from [43.135.148.222] ([43.135.148.222]) by mail1x.sjc.in.sel.sony.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id qB415T74018534; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 01:05:29 GMT Message-ID: <50BD4CB3.6030302@am.sony.com> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 17:06:59 -0800 From: Tim Bird User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert P. J. Day" References: <50B7AE45.1070301@am.sony.com> In-Reply-To: X-OriginatorOrg: am.sony.com Cc: Yocto discussion list Subject: Re: chris larson's cool "bitbake-env" utility X-BeenThere: yocto@yoctoproject.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of all things Yocto List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 01:05:37 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 11/30/2012 05:53 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 29 Nov 2012, Tim Bird wrote: > >> I put a link to your page on my bitbake cheat sheet page at: >> http://elinux.org/Bitbake_Cheat_Sheet > > as someone who has never bothered to play with any of the UIs and is > thus asking from a position of total ignorance, i have a couple > questions about the "User interfaces" section of that cheat sheet. > > using stock oe-core, i followed your cheat sheet and tried this: > > $ bitbake > > and got: > > ERROR: Timeout while attempting to communicate with bitbake server > > so i need to start the server? should that be mentioned there? Hmmm. With bitbake from poky-1.2-denzil I get: "Nothing to do. Use 'bitbake world' to build everything, or run 'bitbake --help' for usage information." I think that "bitbake " is not really a valid invocation. I've changed the page accordingly. > i then tried: > > $ bitbake -u knotty2 > FATAL: Invalid user interface 'knotty2' specified. > Valid interfaces: depexp, goggle, ncurses, hob, knotty [default]. > $ It looks like knotty2 was an experimental interface, with features now folded into knotty in poky-1.3-danny. I removed it from the page. > just pointing out that if i follow that cheat sheet to the letter, i > run into problems. Thanks very much for trying things out and reporting the problems. I've altered the page to hopefully address the issues. Maybe I should mention that I'm using the bitbake from the yocto project? I didn't think they were diverged very far. -- Tim ============================= Tim Bird Architecture Group Chair, CE Workgroup of the Linux Foundation Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Network Entertainment =============================