From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
"Yu, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
"mingo@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"hpa@linux.intel.com" <hpa@linux.intel.com>,
"linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org"
<linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/microcode] x86/microcode_intel_early.c: Early update ucode on Intel's CPU
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:38:38 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50C76F9E.4080001@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE9FiQXOrH4POQESnGycSrf-7e5MhO9y1wfa7ZSEVr9TO_45ZA@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/11/2012 09:15 AM, Yinghai Lu wrote:
>
> No, that is not right place. initrd could be loaded anywhere like way
> high by bootloader.
>
Only *after* your changes... the current protocol doesn't allow that.
Anyway, we need to deal with it, see below.
> to make code simple, we should have following sequence in setup_arch
>
> early_ioremap_init()
> early_update_microcode()...
> early_cpu_init()
>
> early_update_microcode could use early_ioremap to access initrd ramdisk area.
We need there to be as little machinery as possible, *especially*
machinery involving paging, before the microcode gets loaded. I would
prefer if we could load the microcode before enabling paging at all, but
that would mean running it in 32-bit mode which really isn't practical,
so we have to deal with scaffolding here.
We really should cycle the paging off after this happens, but that
really isn't possible until the trampoline gets set up later, since we
may not have any other place to stand in low memory.
This complexity is the cost of allowing the kernel to load above the 4G
mark.
Now, to be solution-focused...
I quite frankly don't see anything in early_remap_init() which can't be
done at compile time. All it does is set up some data structures which
could just as well be statically generated, and then it would be
available from the very beginning and thus usable for this purpose. Xen
might need extra song & dance, but that can be done in Xen-specific code.
The Xen-induced (and since then expanded by others) 32-bit braindamage
of having __FIXADDR_TOP be a variable is a huge problem, obviously, but
it doesn't affect 64 bits which is what we're dealing with here. There
*is* a way to fix it on 32 bits without breaking Xen, which is to move
the fixmap to the beginning of kernel virtual space instead of the end
-- this boundary is known at compile time.
-hpa
--
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-11 17:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-11-30 1:47 [PATCH v2 00/11] x86/microcode: Early load microcode Fenghua Yu
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] Documentation/x86: " Fenghua Yu
2012-11-30 19:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-30 20:40 ` Yu, Fenghua
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] x86/microcode_intel.h: Define functions and macros for early loading ucode Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:21 ` [tip:x86/microcode] " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] x86/microcode_core_early.c: Define interfaces " Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:23 ` [tip:x86/microcode] " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] x86/microcode_intel_lib.c: Early update ucode on Intel's CPU Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:24 ` [tip:x86/microcode] " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] x86/microcode_intel_early.c: " Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:25 ` [tip:x86/microcode] " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:55 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-04 0:18 ` Yu, Fenghua
2012-12-11 2:39 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 3:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-11 3:55 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 6:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-11 7:07 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 14:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-11 16:46 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 16:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-11 17:00 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 17:06 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-11 17:15 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 17:26 ` Yu, Fenghua
2012-12-11 17:38 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-12-11 23:53 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 23:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-12 0:27 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-12 0:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-12 7:14 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-12 10:26 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-13 1:06 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-12 6:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-12 13:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-12 17:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13 5:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13 5:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13 7:01 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-13 15:01 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-13 19:13 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-13 21:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 9:11 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-14 18:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 19:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 20:04 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-14 20:08 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-14 20:14 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-14 20:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-15 7:57 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-15 19:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-15 20:55 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-15 21:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-15 21:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-15 22:13 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-15 22:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-15 23:15 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-15 23:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 20:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-19 21:07 ` Jacob Shin
2012-12-19 21:48 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 22:05 ` Jacob Shin
2012-12-19 22:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 22:47 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-19 22:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 22:51 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-19 22:59 ` Jacob Shin
2012-12-19 23:03 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-19 23:21 ` Jacob Shin
2012-12-19 23:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 23:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 23:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-20 0:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-20 0:10 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-20 0:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 23:40 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-19 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 23:48 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-19 23:40 ` Jacob Shin
2012-12-19 23:45 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-19 23:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 23:55 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-19 23:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-20 0:07 ` Jacob Shin
2012-12-20 0:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-20 0:29 ` Jacob Shin
2012-12-20 0:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-20 2:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-20 4:16 ` Jacob Shin
2012-12-20 4:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 22:55 ` Jacob Shin
2012-12-19 23:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-19 23:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 23:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-12-19 23:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-19 23:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-16 2:09 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-16 5:17 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-16 8:50 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-17 22:47 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-17 23:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-17 23:26 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-18 1:11 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-18 1:51 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-18 2:42 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-14 20:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 20:17 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-14 20:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-14 21:07 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 18:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-11 18:20 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-11 18:42 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 18:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-11 19:18 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-12-11 19:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] x86/head_32.S: Early update ucode in 32-bit Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:26 ` [tip:x86/microcode] " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] x86/head64.c: Early update ucode in 64-bit Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:27 ` [tip:x86/microcode] " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] x86/smpboot.c: Early update ucode on AP Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:28 ` [tip:x86/microcode] " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] x86/mm/init.c: Copy ucode from initrd image to memory Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:29 ` [tip:x86/microcode] " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
2012-11-30 1:47 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] x86/Kconfig: Configurations to enable/disable the feature Fenghua Yu
2012-12-01 0:30 ` [tip:x86/microcode] x86/Kconfig: Configurations to enable/ disable " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-12-21 7:44 [PATCH v5 08/12] x86/microcode_intel_early.c: Early update ucode on Intel's CPU Fenghua Yu
2013-01-31 22:33 ` [tip:x86/microcode] " tip-bot for Fenghua Yu
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