From: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
blauwirbel@gmail.com, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
imammedo@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC qom-cpu v2 2/2] target-i386: Turn Haswell into subclass of SandyBridge
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:29:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50C8BF07.5050304@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121212150513.GE3236@otherpad.lan.raisama.net>
Am 12.12.2012 16:05, schrieb Eduardo Habkost:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 03:47:49PM +0100, Andreas Färber wrote:
>> Am 12.12.2012 13:45, schrieb Eduardo Habkost:
>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 11:59:32PM +0100, Andreas Färber wrote:
>>>> ehabkost: "When adding the Haswell CPU model, I intended to make it
>>>> a superset of the features present on the SandyBridge model"
>>>>
>>>> Inherit from SandyBridge to keep only the delta for Haswell.
>>>
>>> Most CPUs have a superset of the features of their predecessors. Are you
>>> simply using SandyBridge->Haswell as an example, or you think their
>>> relationship is special somehow?
>>>
>>> I believe we don't want to make externally-visible class inheritance,
>>> but probably just reuse constans or init functions internally. A Haswell
>>> CPU is not a type of SandyBridge CPU, it just happens to contain a
>>> superset of the features present in SandyBridge.
>>>
>>> I mean: Haswell also has a superset of features of 486, but we don't
>>> want to make the hierarchy look like the following, do we?
>>
>> I don't see why we would want to use a #define-based inheritence as
>> suggested for the PPRO when we have QOM. QOM inheritence reduces lines
>> of code significantly compared to just taking the values from elsewhere.
>
> The reuse doesn't need to be #define-based (although maybe a
> #define-based approach would work too), it could be function-call-based.
>
>>
>> For the Haswell you said what I quoted, for the other models I said I
>> need your or someone's help to verify whether a hierarchy such as below
>> is semantically right or just a coincidence. I was at least considering
>> an abstract intel-/amd-*-cpu to avoid repeating the three value
>> assignments over and over.
>
> Creating X86IntelCPU and X86AMDCPU classes make sense to me, because
> Haswell is a kind of Intel CPu. Making Haswell a subclass of 486 (like
> below) wouldn't.
>
>>
>> At this time I believe the parents of a type are not (yet) exposed via
>> QMP, just the "type" string property.
>
> Even if they are not exposed externally, it's a confusing usage of
> inheritance for me. I mean: a Haswell CPU is not a type of 486 CPU, it's
> simply a different kind of CPU that happens to have a superset of the
> 486 features.
I concur with your is-a argument. My patch took a pragmatic approach.
I'd like to wait for some more review comments on how to share code
between models then - I remember Paul, Anthony and Alex discussing the
x86 models a while back on IRC, CC'ing. (Summary: reading CPU models
from config files has been dropped, we only have built-in models left -
now how to design name-class mappings below X86CPU)
Andreas
>>> - X86CPU
>>> -> X86IntelCPU
>>> -> 486
>>> -> pentium
>>> -> pentium2
>>> -> pentium3
>>> -> Conroe
>>> -> Penryn
>>> -> Nehalem
>>> -> Westmere
>>> -> SandyBridge
>>> -> Haswell
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-12-12 17:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-10 22:59 [Qemu-devel] [RFC qom-cpu v2 0/2] target-i386: X86CPU subclasses Andreas Färber
2012-12-10 22:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC qom-cpu v2 1/2] target-i386: Convert CPU definitions into " Andreas Färber
2013-01-15 8:41 ` Igor Mammedov
2013-01-15 10:07 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-12-10 22:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC qom-cpu v2 2/2] target-i386: Turn Haswell into subclass of SandyBridge Andreas Färber
2012-12-12 12:45 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-12-12 14:47 ` Andreas Färber
2012-12-12 15:05 ` Eduardo Habkost
2012-12-12 17:29 ` Andreas Färber [this message]
2012-12-12 18:21 ` Alexander Graf
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