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From: George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad@kernel.org>
Cc: "Tim (Xen.org)" <tim@xen.org>,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	"Keir (Xen.org)" <keir@xen.org>,
	Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Andres Lagar-Cavilla <andreslc@gridcentric.ca>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Subject: Re: Proposed XENMEM_claim_pages hypercall: Analysis of problem and alternate solutions
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 13:48:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50D1C5C5.4070704@eu.citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50D1B8D0.4020500@eu.citrix.com>

On 19/12/12 12:53, George Dunlap wrote:
> When a request comes in for a certain amount of memory, it will go and 
> set each VM's max_pages, and the max tmem pool size.  It can then 
> check whether there is enough free memory to complete the allocation 
> or not (since there's a race between checking how much memory a guest 
> is using and setting max_pages).  If that succeeds, it can return 
> "success".  If, while that VM is being built, another request comes 
> in, it can again go around and set the max sizes lower.  It has to 
> know how much of the memory is "reserved" for the first guest being 
> built, but if there's enough left after that, it can return "success" 
> and allow the second VM to start being built.
>
> After the VMs are built, the toolstack can remove the limits again if 
> it wants, again allowing the free flow of memory.
>
> Do you see any problems with this scheme?  All it requires is for the 
> toolstack to be able to temporarliy set limits on both guests 
> ballooning up and on tmem allocating more than a certain amount of 
> memory.  We already have mechanisms for the first, so if we had a 
> "max_pages" for tmem, then you'd have all the tools you need to 
> implement it.

I should also point out, this scheme has some distinct *advantages*: 
Namely, that if there isn't enough free memory, such a daemon can easily 
be modified to *make* free memory by cranking down balloon targets 
and/or tmem pool size.

  -George

  reply	other threads:[~2012-12-19 13:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.18000.1354568068.1399.xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
2012-12-04  3:24 ` Proposed XENMEM_claim_pages hypercall: Analysis of problem and alternate solutions Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2012-12-18 22:17   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-12-19 12:53     ` George Dunlap
2012-12-19 13:48       ` George Dunlap [this message]
2013-01-03 20:38         ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-02 21:59       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-14 18:28         ` George Dunlap
2013-01-22 21:57           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-23 18:36             ` Dave Scott
2013-02-12 15:38               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-12-20 16:04     ` Tim Deegan
2013-01-02 15:31       ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2013-01-02 21:43         ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-03 16:25           ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2013-01-03 18:49             ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-07 14:43               ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-07 18:41                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-08  9:03                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-08 19:41                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-09 10:41                       ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-09 14:44                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-09 14:58                           ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-14 15:45                           ` George Dunlap
2013-01-14 18:18                             ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-14 19:42                               ` George Dunlap
2013-01-14 23:14                                 ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-23 12:18                                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-23 17:34                                     ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-02-12 16:18                                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-10 10:31                       ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-10 18:42                         ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-02 21:38       ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-03 16:24         ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2013-01-03 18:33           ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-10 17:13         ` Tim Deegan
2013-01-10 21:43           ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-17 15:12             ` Tim Deegan
2013-01-17 15:26               ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2013-01-22 19:22               ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-23 12:18                 ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-23 16:05                   ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-01-02 15:29     ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2013-01-11 16:03       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-11 16:13         ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2013-01-11 19:08           ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-14 16:00             ` George Dunlap
2013-01-14 16:11               ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
2013-01-17 15:16             ` Tim Deegan
2013-01-18 21:45               ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-21 10:29                 ` Tim Deegan
2013-02-12 15:54                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-02-14 13:32                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-12-03 20:54 Dan Magenheimer

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