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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Philippe Gerum <rpm@xenomai.org>
Cc: Xenomai <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai] XNARCH_TIMER_IRQ
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2013 12:46:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50E6C112.6070106@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50E6BE15.2060805@xenomai.org>

On 2013-01-04 12:33, Philippe Gerum wrote:
> On 01/04/2013 12:22 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> On 2013-01-04 11:32, Philippe Gerum wrote:
>>> On 01/04/2013 11:16 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>> On 2013-01-04 11:01, Philippe Gerum wrote:
>>>>> On 01/03/2013 06:57 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>> On 2013-01-03 18:34, Philippe Gerum wrote:
>>>>>>> On 01/03/2013 06:25 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-03 17:27, Philippe Gerum wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 01/03/2013 04:44 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-03 16:16, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/02/2013 06:43 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> this may involve some refactoring of the HAL and a bit of I-pipe, so I
>>>>>>>>>>>> better ask first:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure when it changed, but XNARCH_TIMER_IRQ may no longer return the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same values when called on different CPUs. Therefore, It should rather
>>>>>>>>>>>> be called XNARCH_THIS_CPU_TIMER_IRQ now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking at its users (an I-pipe debug warning pointed it out), there are
>>>>>>>>>>>> two that don't expect this: xnintr_query_next() and format_irq_proc().
>>>>>>>>>>>> The former actually wants XNARCH_TIMER_IRQ(cpu), the latter needs
>>>>>>>>>>>> something like is_timer_irq_on_any_cpus(irq).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I would propose to refactor XNARCH_TIMER_IRQ and RTHAL_TIMER_IRQ
>>>>>>>>>>>> accordingly. But this unfortunately requires extensions of I-pipe to
>>>>>>>>>>>> provide something like __ipipe_hrtimer_irq(cpu) and
>>>>>>>>>>>> __ipipe_this_cpu_hrtimer_irq. And some ugly workaround in Xenomai for
>>>>>>>>>>>> older I-pipe versions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does this make sense?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Made something similar for forge:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-gch.git;a=commitdiff;h=37ca257af466e7e5fbfb402b39f088487d048fd5;hp=a9971c363fd361b428f12200536bc5a01dff9c05
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Caution, this code is WIP. nktimer will have to move to the percpu
>>>>>>>>> scheduler descriptor to complete this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's nkclock in 2.6. Mostly a cosmetic issue, the interrupt name will
>>>>>>>> not be properly printed, statistics are already per-cpu. Could be
>>>>>>>> improved nevertheless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My point is to tell you that what you look to in -forge regarding this
>>>>>>> area is in a state of flux. I'm not referring to 2.6, I'm focusing
>>>>>>> almost exclusively on 3.x these days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there an easy way to find out if we have per-CPU timers on some arch?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why should we assume differently?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To avoid dumping redundant statistic lines when some timer IRQ has no
>>>>>> home on a given CPU. But as there are also mixed setups possible as
>>>>>> Gilles pointed out, we need a different approach, likely just skip when
>>>>>> there are no hits.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Your question sounded like "is it possible to know whether an SMP arch
>>>>> may use different per-CPU IRQs for the timer". I was about to answer
>>>>> that testing for any pipeline core API rev >= 2 would do, excluding all
>>>>> legacy patches.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the cosmetic issue you mention, testing rthal_supported_cpus would do.
>>>>
>>>> Nope, this is not sufficient. A per-CPU timer IRQ would then still
>>>> generate useless lines in stat for all those CPUs it is not bound to.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You know which CPU has a real-time timer attached via
>>> rthal_supported_cpus, which timer IRQ # is attached to each real-time
>>> CPU when per-CPU timer IRQs are supported by the pipeline. For legacy
>>> patches which only allow a common IRQ line for all timers regardless of
>>> the CPU, the matter is solved by design. I still don't get where the
>>> issue would be.
>>
>> rthal_supported_cpus doesn't contain enough information. We need
>>
>> is_valid_irq(irq, cpu):
>> 	if (timer_irq(cpu) == irq)
>> 		return true
>> 	for_each_cpu(n)
>> 		if (timer_irq(n) == irq)
>> 			return false
>> 	return true
>>
>> for a cleaned up /stat output as we iterate over all combinations of
>> (irq, cpu) there. That for_each_cpu is a bit ugly, and that's why I was
>> considering to derive is_valid_irq from irq.hits > 0.
>>
> 
> 
> The problem goes away with cpus displayed on lines, and irq # on columns.
> 

Not applicable to /stat.

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-04 11:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-02 17:43 [Xenomai] XNARCH_TIMER_IRQ Jan Kiszka
2013-01-03 15:16 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-01-03 15:44   ` Jan Kiszka
2013-01-03 16:27     ` Philippe Gerum
2013-01-03 17:21       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-01-03 17:30         ` Philippe Gerum
2013-01-03 17:25       ` Jan Kiszka
2013-01-03 17:30         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-01-03 17:34         ` Philippe Gerum
2013-01-03 17:57           ` Jan Kiszka
2013-01-04 10:01             ` Philippe Gerum
2013-01-04 10:16               ` Jan Kiszka
2013-01-04 10:27                 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-01-04 10:32                 ` Philippe Gerum
2013-01-04 11:22                   ` Jan Kiszka
2013-01-04 11:33                     ` Philippe Gerum
2013-01-04 11:46                       ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2013-01-04 12:54                         ` Philippe Gerum
2013-01-06 16:08                           ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-01-06 23:02                             ` Jan Kiszka
2013-01-06 23:11                               ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2013-01-06 23:13                                 ` Jan Kiszka

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