From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Liu Yuan <namei.unix@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
MORITA Kazutaka <morita.kazutaka@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] sheepdog: implement direct write semantics
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:19:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50EC00CE.80205@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50EBFE20.9010100@gmail.com>
Am 08.01.2013 12:08, schrieb Liu Yuan:
> On 01/08/2013 06:51 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> Am 08.01.2013 11:39, schrieb Liu Yuan:
>>> This also explains why
>>> I saw a regression about write performance: Old QEMU can issue multiple
>>> write requests in one go, but now the requests are sent one by one (even
>>> with cache=writeback set), which makes Sheepdog write performance drop a
>>> lot. Is it possible to issue multiple requests in one go as old QEMU does?
>>
>> Huh? We didn't change anything to that respect, or at least not that I'm
>> aware of. qemu always only had single-request bdrv_co_writev, so if
>> anything that batching must have happened inside Sheepdog code? Do you
>> know what makes it not batch requests any more?
>>
>
> QEMU v1.1.x works well with batched write requests. Sheepdog block
> driver doesn't do batching trick as far as I know, just send request as
> it is feed. There isn't noticeable changes between v1.1.x and current
> master regard to Sheepdog.c.
>
> To detail the different behavior, from Sheepdog daemon which receives
> the requests from QEMU:
> old: can receive multiple many requests at the virtually the same time
> and handle them concurrently
> now: only receive one request, handle it, reply and get another.
>
> So I think the problem is, current QEMU will wait for write response
> before sending another request.
I can't see a reason why it would do that. Can you bisect this?
>>> It seems it is hard to restore into old semantics of cache flags due to
>>> new design of QEMU block layer. So will you accept that adding a 'flags'
>>> into BlockDriverState which carry the 'cache flags' from user to keep
>>> backward compatibility?
>>
>> No, going back to the old behaviour would break guest-toggled WCE.
>>
>
> Guest-toggled WCE only works with IDE and seems that virtio-blk doesn't
> support it, no? And I think there are huge virtio-blk users.
It works with virtio-blk and SCSI as well.
> I didn't meant to break WCE. What I meant is to allow backward
> compatibility. For e.g, Sheepdog driver can make use of this dedicated
> cache flags to implement its own cache control and doesn't affect other
> drivers at all.
How would you do it? With a WCE that changes during runtime the idea of
a flag that is passed to bdrv_open() and stays valid as long as the
BlockDriverState exists doesn't match reality any more.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-08 11:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-12-19 18:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] sheepdog: implement direct write semantics Liu Yuan
2012-12-25 7:47 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2012-12-25 8:26 ` Liu Yuan
2012-12-25 8:45 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-03 13:43 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-04 16:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-05 4:40 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-05 5:29 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-05 7:56 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-07 12:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-08 5:28 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-07 13:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 5:42 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 9:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-08 9:45 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 10:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 10:39 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 10:51 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 11:08 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 11:19 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2013-01-08 11:35 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 12:12 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-08 13:18 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-08 13:23 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 10:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 10:36 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 10:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 10:46 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 10:58 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 11:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-09 12:07 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 12:10 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 12:16 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 12:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-09 13:04 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-09 15:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 5:38 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11 7:52 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-01-11 8:07 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11 9:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-11 9:04 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11 9:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-11 9:38 ` Liu Yuan
2013-01-11 9:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-11 9:32 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-10 15:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2013-01-10 15:31 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 17:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2013-01-09 11:10 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-09 10:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-01-10 15:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2013-01-10 15:21 ` Kevin Wolf
2013-01-10 8:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] " Liu Yuan
2013-01-10 9:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-01-11 7:35 ` MORITA Kazutaka
2013-01-11 9:23 ` Kevin Wolf
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