From: Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
namhyung@kernel.org, Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 09/22] sched: compute runnable load avg in cpu_load and cpu_avg_load_per_task
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:27:05 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50EC2CB9.5090707@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxbS-u1Zfwg2oKOmHq6FBF+dRRhrdssqc9PpC_gXoV3+g@mail.gmail.com>
On 01/07/2013 02:31 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just looked into the aim9 benchmark, in this case it forks 2000 tasks,
>> after all tasks ready, aim9 give a signal than all tasks burst waking up
>> and run until all finished.
>> Since each of tasks are finished very quickly, a imbalanced empty cpu
>> may goes to sleep till a regular balancing give it some new tasks. That
>> causes the performance dropping. cause more idle entering.
>
> Sounds like for AIM (and possibly for other really bursty loads), we
> might want to do some load-balancing at wakeup time by *just* looking
> at the number of running tasks, rather than at the load average. Hmm?
Millions thanks for your suggestions! :)
It's worth to try use instant load -- nr_running in waking balancing, I
will try this. but in this case, I tried to print sleeping tasks by
print_task() in sched/debug.c. Find the 2000 tasks were forked on just 2
LCPUs which in different cpu sockets whenever with/without this load avg
patch.
So, I am wondering if it's worth to consider the sleeping tasks' load in
fork/wake balancing. Does anyone consider this in history?
===
print_task(struct seq_file *m, struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
{
if (rq->curr == p)
SEQ_printf(m, "R");
+ else if (!p->on_rq)
+ SEQ_printf(m, "S");
else
SEQ_printf(m, " ");
...
@@ -166,13 +170,14 @@ static void print_rq(struct seq_file *m, struct rq
*rq, int rq_cpu)
read_lock_irqsave(&tasklist_lock, flags);
do_each_thread(g, p) {
- if (!p->on_rq || task_cpu(p) != rq_cpu)
+ if (task_cpu(p) != rq_cpu)
continue;
===
>
> The load average is fundamentally always going to run behind a bit,
> and while you want to use it for long-term balancing, a short-term you
> might want to do just a "if we have a huge amount of runnable
> processes, do a load balancing *now*". Where "huge amount" should
> probably be relative to the long-term load balancing (ie comparing the
> number of runnable processes on this CPU right *now* with the load
> average over the last second or so would show a clear spike, and a
> reason for quick action).
Many thanks for suggestion!
Will try it. :)
>
> Linus
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-01-08 14:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-05 8:37 [PATCH V3 0/22] sched: simplified fork, enable load average into LB and power awareness scheduling Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 01/22] sched: set SD_PREFER_SIBLING on MC domain to reduce a domain level Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 02/22] sched: select_task_rq_fair clean up Alex Shi
2013-01-11 4:57 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 03/22] sched: fix find_idlest_group mess logical Alex Shi
2013-01-11 4:59 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 04/22] sched: don't need go to smaller sched domain Alex Shi
2013-01-09 17:38 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-10 3:16 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-11 5:02 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 05/22] sched: remove domain iterations in fork/exec/wake Alex Shi
2013-01-09 18:21 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-11 2:46 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-11 10:07 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-11 14:50 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-14 8:55 ` li guang
2013-01-14 9:18 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-11 4:56 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-11 8:01 ` li guang
2013-01-11 14:56 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-14 9:03 ` li guang
2013-01-15 2:34 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-16 1:54 ` li guang
2013-01-11 10:54 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-16 5:43 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-16 7:41 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 06/22] sched: load tracking bug fix Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 07/22] sched: set initial load avg of new forked task Alex Shi
2013-01-11 5:10 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-11 5:44 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 08/22] sched: update cpu load after task_tick Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 09/22] sched: compute runnable load avg in cpu_load and cpu_avg_load_per_task Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:56 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-06 7:54 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-06 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2013-01-07 7:00 ` Preeti U Murthy
2013-01-08 14:27 ` Alex Shi [this message]
2013-01-11 6:31 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-21 14:47 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-22 3:20 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-22 6:55 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-22 7:50 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-22 9:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-23 0:36 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-23 1:47 ` Mike Galbraith
2013-01-23 2:01 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 10/22] sched: consider runnable load average in move_tasks Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 11/22] sched: consider runnable load average in effective_load Alex Shi
2013-01-10 11:28 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-11 3:26 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-14 12:01 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-16 5:30 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 12/22] Revert "sched: Introduce temporary FAIR_GROUP_SCHED dependency for load-tracking" Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 13/22] sched: add sched_policy in kernel Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 14/22] sched: add sched_policy and it's sysfs interface Alex Shi
2013-01-14 6:53 ` Namhyung Kim
2013-01-14 8:11 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 15/22] sched: log the cpu utilization at rq Alex Shi
2013-01-10 11:40 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-11 3:30 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-14 13:59 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-16 5:53 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 16/22] sched: add power aware scheduling in fork/exec/wake Alex Shi
2013-01-10 15:01 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-11 7:08 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-14 16:09 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-16 6:02 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-16 14:27 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-17 5:47 ` Namhyung Kim
2013-01-18 13:41 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-14 7:03 ` Namhyung Kim
2013-01-14 8:30 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 17/22] sched: packing small tasks in wake/exec balancing Alex Shi
2013-01-10 17:17 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-11 3:47 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-14 7:13 ` Namhyung Kim
2013-01-16 6:11 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-16 12:52 ` Namhyung Kim
2013-01-14 17:00 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-16 7:32 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-16 15:08 ` Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-18 14:06 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 18/22] sched: add power/performance balance allowed flag Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 19/22] sched: pull all tasks from source group Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 20/22] sched: don't care if the local group has capacity Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 21/22] sched: power aware load balance, Alex Shi
2013-01-05 8:37 ` [PATCH v3 22/22] sched: lazy powersaving balance Alex Shi
2013-01-14 8:39 ` Namhyung Kim
2013-01-14 8:45 ` Alex Shi
2013-01-09 17:16 ` [PATCH V3 0/22] sched: simplified fork, enable load average into LB and power awareness scheduling Morten Rasmussen
2013-01-10 3:49 ` Alex Shi
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