From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from 7of9.schinagl.nl ([88.159.158.68]:56974 "EHLO 7of9.schinagl.nl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753832Ab3AKIKs (ORCPT ); Fri, 11 Jan 2013 03:10:48 -0500 Message-ID: <50EFC8EC.7000609@schinagl.nl> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:10:20 +0100 From: Oliver Schinagl MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan McCrohan CC: Jiri Slaby , Manu Abraham , Michael Krufky , Mauro Carvalho Chehab , Johannes Stezenbach , linux-media , Christoph Pfister Subject: Legallity of dtv-scan-tables Was: [RFC] Initial scan files troubles and brainstorming References: <50EF0A4F.1000604@gmail.com> <50EF2155.5060905@schinagl.nl> <50EF256B.8030308@gmail.com> <50EF276C.1080101@gmail.com> <50EF2AC0.20206@schinagl.nl> <20130111011232.GA3255@lambda.dereenigne.org> In-Reply-To: <20130111011232.GA3255@lambda.dereenigne.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-media-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On 11-01-13 02:12, Jonathan McCrohan wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 21:55:28 +0100, Oliver Schinagl wrote: >> Actually, there's plenty of apps etc that depend on it. I know some >> distro's install it into /usr/share/dvb for all to use. I think actually >> only a very small handfull use their own scanfiles. Very small handfull >> I belive ;) > Indeed. I have just gone to file an Intent To Package bug for the > dtv-scan-tables package in Debian, but I noticed that the COPYING and > README files were not split out from the dvb-apps tree. If some have any pointers in what would be logical in the readme, i'll whip one up this afternoon. but copying is an interesting point. > > Logically it would follow that dtv-scan-tables is also licenced under > LGPL, the same as dvb-apps, but this needs to be stated explicitly. > This is especially true for distributions which be redistributing > dtv-scan-tables. I don't think it is that logical actually. Remember the ntpd fiasco a few months back? Where some company claimed they had copyright on factual data? This is as far as I can tell, factual data. A Satellite or Antenna is configured to broadcast in a certain way, the scan tables are a collection of this data. They get to us from volunteers who either scan for them or find 'official' docs from the broadcaster and re-arrange it to something useful to us..... So who owns this data? Can it be licensed as GPL? Falls it under the Public Domain by default? Personally, I think that the copyright license applied to the actual source code, but not the scan tables. > > Thanks, > Jon Oliver