From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753711Ab3AQWcO (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:32:14 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:32525 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752965Ab3AQWcM (ORCPT ); Thu, 17 Jan 2013 17:32:12 -0500 Message-ID: <50F87BCA.10201@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 14:31:38 -0800 From: Andy Grover Organization: Red Hat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.11) Gecko/20121116 Thunderbird/10.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Nicholas A. Bellinger" CC: Andreas Steinmetz , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, hch@infradead.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, target-devel , Ritesh Raj Sarraf Subject: Re: LIO - the broken iSCSI target implementation References: <1358385543.7040.54.camel@host028-server-9.lan.domdv.de> <1358456179.18551.34.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org> In-Reply-To: <1358456179.18551.34.camel@haakon2.linux-iscsi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 01/17/2013 12:56 PM, Nicholas A. Bellinger wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 02:19 +0100, Andreas Steinmetz wrote: >> This is not a technical point of view. This is a more or less political >> and user point of view. And for any replies, I'm not subscribed (haven't >> been now for years). >> >> As a user, I was in need for an iSCSI target. Actually, I needed to >> export a SAS tape device (Ultrium 5) - which is one of the devices still >> sufficiently expensive to go the iSCSI target way) - well, not any disks >> (cheap enough, NFS available) or CD/DVD writers (I'd call these penny >> targets nowadays). >> >> Thus, lio (http://www.linux-iscsi.org/) seemed to be the politically and >> technically favoured solution. Except: it simply doesn't work, userspace >> utilities are seemingly not maintained, > > I'm not sure what you mean. There are targetcli+rtslib packages are > available for virtually every distribution > > http://www.linux-iscsi.org/wiki/Targetcli#Linux_distributions [CCing rrs@debian.org] No... actually upstream targetcli/rtslib are not very well maintained. Around 5 patches each in the last year. Meanwhile, I have been actively maintaining branches at github.com/agrover/targetcli-fb and github.com/agrover/rtslib-fb. We have a man page and screencasts even. Feel free to file bugs against them and I'll respond. But I'm only packaging for Fedora/RHEL, so random people on Debian etc. get a bad experience. I'd like to see upstream accept my AGPLv3-licensed patches, or have Debian package the -fb versions, either instead or in addition to the upstream versions. (I'd kinda been waiting to bring it up until upstream had no commits in a year, but since you mentioned it...) Regards -- Andy