From: santosh.shilimkar@ti.com (Santosh Shilimkar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCHv2 for soc 3/4] arm: Add v7_invalidate_l1 to cache-v7.S
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 20:23:43 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <510BD6F7.9070706@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130201144913.GQ23505@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
On Friday 01 February 2013 08:19 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 08:13:34PM +0530, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>> On Friday 01 February 2013 08:01 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> Just to further provide some insight into the reasoning:
>>>
>>> Invalidating data out of a working cache risks data corruption; maybe
>>> the data being invalidated is filesystem metadata which was about to
>>> be cleaned and written back to storage. That risks filesystem
>>> corruption.
>>>
>>> Invalidating fewer levels than are actually required is different: we
>>> may leave dirty cache lines behind which may be evicted, but there's
>>> also the chance that the CPU will end up _reading_ from its
>>> uninitialized caches and may crash before that happens.
>>>
>>> So, the risks are:
>>> 1. invalidate more levels than are necessary and risk discarding data
>>> which other CPUs are using, which may be important data.
>>> 2. invalidate less levels than are necessary and risk writing out
>>> data from the CPU cache, which may or may not happen _before_ the
>>> CPU crashes due to reading invalid data.
>>>
>>> Out of those two, (2) sounds to me to be the safer approach.
>>>
>>> Plus, I can't think of a reason why you'd want to put on a SMP system
>>> more than one layer of CPU local caches... to do so would seem to me to
>>> be an exercise in coherency complexity... So, I suspect that in the
>>> real world, we will _never_ see any system which has more than one
>>> layer of caches local to the CPU. But we may see a system with a
>>> cache architecture similar to the one I drew in my email to Santosh.
>>>
>> I still scratching my head on why you would even have a CPU design
>> with two L2 shared caches for a 4 CPU system.
>>
>> If you ever design such a system, you need to ensure that
>>
>> 1. Both L2 are used in exclusive mode
>> 2. Both L2 cache has coherency hardware connected to keep them in sync
>> for shared data.
>>
>> For 1, one would just increase the size of L2 and have only 1 memory.
>>
>> 2 Doesn't bring much advantage unless and until your L3 is too far
>> away for access in terms of CPU access cycles.
>
> I don't think you quite understood my diagram. There aren't two separate
> L2 data caches (CL1I and CL1D). I'm showing the L2 cache as having a
> harvard structure (separate instruction and data) with no coherency
> between them - and because they're harvard structured, that means the
> unification level must be _below_ that point.
>
Now I get it. Yes I missed the I and D separation in the diagram.
Thanks a lot for drawing.
Regards,
Santosh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-01 14:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-31 17:05 [PATCHv2 for soc 0/4] Enabling socfpga on hardware dinguyen at altera.com
2013-01-31 17:05 ` [PATCHv2 for soc 1/4] arm: socfpga: Add new device tree source for actual socfpga HW dinguyen at altera.com
2013-02-01 3:46 ` Olof Johansson
2013-02-01 15:23 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-01-31 17:05 ` [PATCHv2 for soc 2/4] arm: socfpga: Add entries to enable make dtbs socfpga dinguyen at altera.com
2013-01-31 17:05 ` [PATCHv2 for soc 3/4] arm: Add v7_invalidate_l1 to cache-v7.S dinguyen at altera.com
2013-01-31 18:11 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-01 3:47 ` Olof Johansson
2013-02-01 11:29 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-01 11:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 11:44 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-01 12:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 13:04 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-01 13:20 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 14:09 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-01 12:11 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-02-01 12:24 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-01 12:54 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 14:10 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-02-01 14:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 14:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 14:43 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-01 14:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 14:53 ` Santosh Shilimkar [this message]
2013-02-01 14:34 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2013-01-31 17:05 ` [PATCHv2 for soc 4/4] arm: socfpga: Add SMP support for actual socfpga harware dinguyen at altera.com
2013-02-01 3:50 ` Olof Johansson
2013-02-01 10:46 ` Pavel Machek
2013-02-01 15:27 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-02-01 15:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-01 16:39 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-02-02 19:24 ` Pavel Machek
2013-02-02 21:37 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-02-03 18:36 ` Pavel Machek
2013-02-04 16:12 ` Dinh Nguyen
2013-02-01 10:50 ` Pavel Machek
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