From: Bernd Schubert <bernd.schubert@itwm.fraunhofer.de>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, sandeen@redhat.com,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
gluster-devel@nongnu.org,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>
Subject: Re: regressions due to 64-bit ext4 directory cookies
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:56:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <511AAC89.3060409@itwm.fraunhofer.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130212202841.GC10267@fieldses.org>
On 02/12/2013 09:28 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> 06effdbb49af5f6c "nfsd: vfs_llseek() with 32 or 64 bit offsets (hashes)"
> and previous patches solved problems with hash collisions in large
> directories by using 64- instead of 32- bit directory hashes in some
> cases. But it caused problems for users who assume directory offsets
> are "small". Two cases we've run across:
>
> - older NFS clients: 64-bit cookies cause applications on many
> older clients to fail.
> - gluster: gluster assumed that it could take the top bits of
> the offset for its own use.
>
> In both cases we could argue we're in the right: the nfs protocol
> defines cookies to be 64 bits, so clients should be prepared to handle
> them (remapping to smaller integers if necessary to placate applications
> using older system interfaces). And gluster was incorrect to assume
> that the "offset" was really an "offset" as opposed to just an opaque
> value.
>
> But in practice things that worked fine for a long time break on a
> kernel upgrade.
>
> So at a minimum I think we owe people a workaround, and turning off
> dir_index may not be practical for everyone.
>
> A "no_64bit_cookies" export option would provide a workaround for NFS
> servers with older NFS clients, but not for applications like gluster.
>
> For that reason I'd rather have a way to turn this off on a given ext4
> filesystem. Is that practical?
I think Ted needs to answer if he would accept another mount option. But
before we are going this way, what is gluster doing if there are hash
collions?
Thanks,
Bernd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-12 20:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-12 20:28 regressions due to 64-bit ext4 directory cookies J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-12 20:56 ` Bernd Schubert [this message]
2013-02-12 21:00 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-13 8:17 ` Bernd Schubert
2013-02-13 22:18 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-13 13:31 ` [Gluster-devel] " Niels de Vos
2013-02-13 15:40 ` Bernd Schubert
2013-02-14 5:32 ` Dave Chinner
2013-02-13 4:00 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-13 13:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-13 15:14 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-13 15:19 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-13 15:36 ` Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <20130213153654.GC17431-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 16:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-13 16:20 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20130213162059.GL14195-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 16:43 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-13 16:43 ` Myklebust, Trond
2013-02-13 21:33 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-14 3:59 ` Myklebust, Trond
[not found] ` <4FA345DA4F4AE44899BD2B03EEEC2FA91F3D6BAB-UCI0kNdgLrHLJmV3vhxcH3OR4cbS7gtM96Bgd4bDwmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-14 5:45 ` Dave Chinner
2013-02-14 5:45 ` Dave Chinner
2013-02-13 21:21 ` Anand Avati
2013-02-13 21:21 ` Anand Avati
[not found] ` <CAFboF2wXvP+vttiff8iRE9rAgvV8UWGbFprgVp8p7kE43TU=PA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 22:20 ` [Gluster-devel] " Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-13 22:20 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-13 22:41 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20130213224141.GU14195-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 22:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-13 22:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <20130213224720.GE5938-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 22:57 ` Anand Avati
2013-02-13 22:57 ` Anand Avati
[not found] ` <CAFboF2z1akN_edrY_fT915xfehfHGioA2M=PSHv0Fp3rD-5v5A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 23:05 ` [Gluster-devel] " J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-13 23:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20130213230511.GW14195-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 23:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-02-13 23:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
[not found] ` <20130213234430.GF5938-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-14 0:05 ` Anand Avati
2013-02-14 0:05 ` Anand Avati
[not found] ` <CAFboF2zS+YAa0uUxMFUAbqgPh3Kb4xZu40WUjLyGn8qPoP+Oyw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-14 21:47 ` [Gluster-devel] " J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-14 21:47 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-26 15:23 ` Bernd Schubert
2013-03-26 15:23 ` [Gluster-devel] " Bernd Schubert
[not found] ` <5151BD5F.30607-mPn0NPGs4xGatNDF+KUbs4QuADTiUCJX@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-26 15:48 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-03-26 15:48 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-03-28 14:07 ` Theodore Ts'o
2013-03-28 16:26 ` Eric Sandeen
2013-03-28 17:52 ` Zach Brown
[not found] ` <20130328175205.GD16651-fypN+1c5dIyjpB87vu3CluTW4wlIGRCZ@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-28 18:05 ` Anand Avati
2013-03-28 18:05 ` Anand Avati
[not found] ` <CAFboF2ztc06G00z8ga35NrxgnT2YgBiDECgU_9kvVA_Go1_Bww-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-28 18:31 ` [Gluster-devel] " J. Bruce Fields
2013-03-28 18:31 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20130328183153.GG7080-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-28 18:49 ` Anand Avati
2013-03-28 18:49 ` Anand Avati
[not found] ` <CAFboF2w49Lc0vM0SerbJfL9_RuSHgEU+y_Yk7F4pLxeiqu+KRg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-28 19:43 ` [Gluster-devel] " Jeff Darcy
2013-03-28 19:43 ` Jeff Darcy
[not found] ` <51549D74.1060703-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-28 22:14 ` Anand Avati
2013-03-28 22:14 ` Anand Avati
[not found] ` <CAFboF2xkvXx9YFYxBXupwg=s=3MaeQYm2KK2m8MFtEBPsxwQ7Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-28 22:20 ` Anand Avati
2013-03-28 22:20 ` Anand Avati
2013-02-14 21:46 ` [Gluster-devel] " J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-14 21:46 ` J. Bruce Fields
[not found] ` <20130213222052.GD5938-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-14 6:10 ` Dave Chinner
2013-02-14 6:10 ` Dave Chinner
2013-02-14 22:01 ` J. Bruce Fields
2013-02-15 2:27 ` Dave Chinner
2013-02-13 6:56 ` Andreas Dilger
2013-02-13 13:40 ` J. Bruce Fields
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