From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Linux Containers"
<containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>,
Pkg-shadow-devel-XbBxUvOt3X2LieD7tvxI8l/i77bcL1HB@public.gmane.org,
"Eric W. Biederman"
<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
"Nicolas François"
<nicolas.francois-Fa7rcPG4DJn7nK0/Xc0eeg@public.gmane.org>,
"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)"
<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] pkg-shadow support subordinate ids with user namespaces
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:38:43 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <512B7773.9060704@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130225143451.GE4387@sergelap>
On 02/25/2013 06:34 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Glauber Costa (glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org):
>> On 02/22/2013 08:34 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 01/22/2013 01:11 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The kernel support for user namespaces allows ordinary users to use
>>>>> multiple uids and gids if they can get a trusted program to tell the
>>>>> kernel the set of subordinate uids and gids they are allowed to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is my work to make that trusted program.
>>>>> Two new files are added /etc/subuid /etc/subgid that specify
>>>>> ranges of uids and gids that users may uses.
>>>>>
>>>>> useradd, and newusers are modifed to add users to those files.
>>>>>
>>>>> userdel is modeifed to remove users from those files.
>>>>>
>>>>> usermod is modified to give manual control of what goes in those files.
>>>>>
>>>>> newuidmap and newgidmap read the new files and update
>>>>> /proc/[pid]/uid_map and /proc/[pid]/gid_map respectively
>>>>> as requested by their command line parameters and as allowed
>>>>> by the /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid.
>>>>>
>>>>> The following patches are against the current developent trunk
>>>>> of pkg-shadow svn rev 3745. With minor tweaking of man/Makefile.am
>>>>> these patches also apply to shadow 4.1.5.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric W. Biederman (11):
>>>>> Documentation for /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid
>>>>> login.defs.5: Document the new variables in login.defs
>>>>> Implement commonio_append.
>>>>> Add backend support for suboridnate uids and gids
>>>>> Implement find_new_sub_uids find_new_sub_gids
>>>>> userdel: Add support for removing subordinate user and group ids.
>>>>> useradd: Add support for subordinate user identifiers
>>>>> Add support for detecting busy subordinate user ids
>>>>> usermod: Add support for subordinate uids and gids.
>>>>> newusers: Add support for assiging subordinate uids and gids.
>>>>> newuidmap,newgidmap: New suid helpers for using subordinate uids and gids
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Is there any intention to merge this (or any later version thereof) ?
>>>> I intend to start excluding uid ranges for containers usage in OpenVZ,
>>>> and support for that in tooling would come in handy.
>>>
>>> I don't know what the state of the main pkg-shadow package is. I have
>>> heard anything and the repository seems to have been dormant since the
>>> last release almost a year ago.
>>>
>>> However the last I heard Serge was working on getting these changes into
>>> Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> So the intention is to get this code merged but I don't know what more
>>> needs to be done at this point.
>>>
>> I understand, this was more a question for the package maintainers.
>> It would be interesting for us to have those changes more widely
>> available than just @Ubuntu
>
> Well, I would aim to get it into Debian, from where it should make it
> into all its downstreams eventually... But I know that's not what you
> mean :)
>
> Note that the core of this really isn't a big deal, and you can easily
> implement your own distro-independent wrappers. Just provide an easy
> tool for admins to assign subuids to users, and a small setuid-root
> binary to allow users, subject to those constraints, to write to
> /proc/$$/uid_maps.
>
> Shadow integration will be nice, but for your use case you should be
> able to by-step it until shadow integration is complete.
>
Well, the main problem is that I don't talk on behalf of any distro. We
distribute OpenVZ, and would like to create containers such that each
container has its own user range - all that without having the
containers users conflicting with users created by useradd's normal
operation.
I am *hoping* that by selecting ranges high enough I will avoid
conflicts at least in the beginning, but it is a bit of guesswork.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-25 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-01-22 9:11 [PATCH 00/11] pkg-shadow support subordinate ids with user namespaces Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87d2wxshu0.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-22 9:12 ` [PATCH 01/11] Documentation for /etc/subuid and /etc/subgid Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:12 ` [PATCH 02/11] login.defs.5: Document the new variables in login.defs Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:13 ` [PATCH 03/11] Implement commonio_append Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:14 ` [PATCH 04/11] Add backend support for suboridnate uids and gids Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87liblr344.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-23 18:22 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20130123182206.GA4468-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-24 22:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87a9ryyzh2.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-24 22:50 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-01-24 22:59 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-24 23:13 ` [PATCH] subordinateio: Fix subordinate_parse to have an internal static buffer Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:15 ` [PATCH 05/11] Implement find_new_sub_uids find_new_sub_gids Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:16 ` [PATCH 06/11] userdel: Add support for removing subordinate user and group ids Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:17 ` [PATCH 07/11] useradd: Add support for subordinate user identifiers Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:17 ` [PATCH 08/11] Add support for detecting busy subordinate user ids Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:18 ` [PATCH 09/11] usermod: Add support for subordinate uids and gids Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:19 ` [PATCH 10/11] newusers: Add support for assiging " Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-22 9:20 ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap, newgidmap: New suid helpers for using " Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87ehhdpoag.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-04 18:31 ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap,newgidmap: " Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20130204183129.GA27179-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-05 17:20 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-02-06 0:28 ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap, newgidmap: " Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87sj5ai8us.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-06 3:00 ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap,newgidmap: " Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <87fw1tr33a.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-15 0:15 ` [PATCH 05/11] Implement find_new_sub_uids find_new_sub_gids Seth Arnold
2013-10-25 20:30 ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap,newgidmap: New suid helpers for using subordinate uids and gids Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20131025203025.GA2467-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-26 0:42 ` [PATCH 11/11] newuidmap, newgidmap: " Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87zjpw278b.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-26 2:33 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-10-26 21:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87iowjya4j.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-27 23:53 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-01-29 18:15 ` [PATCH 00/11] pkg-shadow support subordinate ids with user namespaces Rob Landley
2013-01-29 22:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-30 5:35 ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-01-30 6:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87vcafyy0k.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-30 7:38 ` Vasily Kulikov
2013-02-22 12:16 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <51276189.5040803-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-22 16:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87zjyw489z.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-22 17:09 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <5127A657.3010909-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-25 14:34 ` Serge Hallyn
[not found] ` <20130225143451.GE4387@sergelap>
2013-02-25 14:38 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
[not found] ` <512B7773.9060704-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-25 15:15 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-02-26 1:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-02-25 14:30 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-03-03 15:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2013-03-07 15:23 ` Dwight Engen
2013-07-28 17:14 ` [Pkg-shadow-devel] " Christian PERRIER
[not found] ` <20130728171451.GX5670-FvNwPcshoeM/MCprI7ZU+I/wHUNs+SP4HZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-28 17:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87r4eilg6y.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-29 0:33 ` Serge Hallyn
[not found] ` <11218395-363e-46cd-b7a1-4488079a4986@email.android.com>
[not found] ` <11218395-363e-46cd-b7a1-4488079a4986-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-06 14:54 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20130806145403.GA20913-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-06 22:53 ` Nicolas François
[not found] ` <20130806225332.GA14109-pDMkYksm/NDBVznEOA0nCqMXiC8k1aZu0e7PPNI6Mm0@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 15:33 ` Serge Hallyn
2013-08-07 18:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87eha5peb8.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-09 18:40 ` Nicolas François
[not found] ` <20130303153726.GA14737@austin.hallyn.com>
[not found] ` <20130303153726.GA14737-anj0Drq5vpzx6HRWoRZK3AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 5:56 ` Christian PERRIER
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[not found] ` <20130304055654.GE2629-FvNwPcshoeM/MCprI7ZU+I/wHUNs+SP4HZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 22:05 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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[not found] ` <20130307102352.4a5943cd-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-07 21:54 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20130307215457.GB9348-anj0Drq5vpzx6HRWoRZK3AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-07 22:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
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2013-03-08 6:50 ` [Pkg-shadow-devel] " Christian PERRIER
[not found] ` <20130308065019.GI5885-FvNwPcshoeM/MCprI7ZU+I/wHUNs+SP4HZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-02 13:48 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20130602134823.GB8004-anj0Drq5vpzx6HRWoRZK3AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-02 14:04 ` Christian PERRIER
[not found] ` <20130602140436.GK9152-FvNwPcshoeM/MCprI7ZU+I/wHUNs+SP4HZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-02 14:33 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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