From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Message-ID: <51404997.7000900@hilscher.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:40:39 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane_LOS?= MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1362541011.90317.YahooMailNeo@web161401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <5136F3A6.8090400@antcom.de> <513F96BA.4030309@xenomai.org> <513F9DF2.2030803@antcom.de> In-Reply-To: <513F9DF2.2030803@antcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Xenomai] about Xenomai in Debian and Ubuntu List-Id: Discussions about the Xenomai project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: xenomai@xenomai.org Le 12/03/2013 22:28, Roland Stigge a =E9crit : > On 03/12/2013 09:57 PM, Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote: >> Roland, at some point I lost track of what your intentions were. In the >> following mail: >> http://www.xenomai.org/pipermail/xenomai/2012-July/000473.html >> >> You seemed to agree to take care of the debian directory in xenomai >> sources, asking me to simply warn you before a release. >> Which I did before the 2.6.2 release in the following mail: >> >> http://www.xenomai.org/pipermail/xenomai/2012-December/027051.html >> >> With a list of things which could be changed in the debian/rules file, >> inviting you to do what I had understood you had agreed to do. > When you propose things, and implement them, fine. That's your decision. > When you propose things and I implement them, also fine. That's my > decision. But please don't expect me to just follow commands. That's not > my nature at all. Sorry. > >> http://www.xenomai.org/pipermail/xenomai/2012-December/027052.html >> You simply told me that you did not even try debian/rules, following >> this, Leopold sent a post with a patch to fix the issue before the >> release, but your reply could be interpreted as the fact that the patch >> was actually broken, you did not send a fixed patch for the update, and >> as a result 2.6.2 was released with a broken debian directory. > Please don't over-interpret things I actually didn't say at all. Every > patch is welcome, including things you propose, and from other > contributors. When I see conflicts in the code, I will state that clearly. > >> Which is why, for the 2.6.2.1 release, I did not warn you (since it had >> proved useless anyway) > This is also your interpretation of things, and your own decision. Not > discussed with me. > > Sorry when I missed some detail in the past. Please don't let this lead > to bad further communication in return, or blaming each other. > > Thanks, > > Roland > > > PS: I consider Debian itself the primary source of Debian packages and > will continue to do so. When people ask specific questions about those, > I'll answer accordingly. > > PPS: If you consider your tone as helpful towards positive motivation of > contributors, please rethink. > > _______________________________________________ > Xenomai mailing list > Xenomai@xenomai.org > http://www.xenomai.org/mailman/listinfo/xenomai > Hi, I just want to say that I agree with Roland about the tone. My colleague J=E9r=F4me and I ARE NOT kernel developers for sure. Hilscher is proposing a Linux driver for the cifX boards. Not for free,=20 I can't do anything about that fact. Then our customer gets the source code. The documentation is available=20 on our web site. As I like FLOSS and have years of fiddling here and there, I have=20 noticed Xenomai existence and usage in projects such as Orocos and Linux=20 CNC. And I have noticed also the usage of CIF boards in those projects. So I have proposed to my manager and J=E9r=F4me to work on a Xenomai driver= =20 for cifX boards and it was accepted. Again, we are not kernel developers and our background is different. Of course we could sell some boards but it is nothing compared to the=20 time and energy we have already spent in this project. Our customers are traditionally using RTX or VxWorks with our boards. I=20 wanted to promote the use of Linux / Xenomai for some kind of applications. We have received some support from Gilles and Jan and I thank them very=20 much but the tone was never very friendly. I understand that FLOSS projects need to sell training and development=20 but the cost would have cancelled the project since we don't think we=20 could generate the cash to cover the expenses. So the driver is done on=20 our free time. I am just wondering why in this list nobody cares of saying Hi or Hello=20 before anything. May be you are just too busy reading / writing kernel code lines. I am a little bit disappointed. Sorry for bothering you. Best Regards, Cordialement, St=E9phane LOS slos@hilscher.com Support technique ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hilscher France 12, rue du 35=E8me R=E9giment d'Aviation Miniparc du Ch=EAne 69500 BRON France T=E9l. : +33 (0) 4 72 37 98 40 Fax : +33 (0) 4 78 26 83 27 http ://www.hilscher.fr ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~