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From: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, dietmar@proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/8] block: add block_backup QMP command
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:52:16 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51424690.3000100@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1362867748-30528-5-git-send-email-stefanha@redhat.com>

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On 03/09/2013 03:22 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> @block-backup
> 
> Start a point-in-time copy of a block device to a new destination.
> 

I'm trying to figure out how this is different from drive-mirror.  If I
understand correctly:

After starting drive-mirror, a write to the block device is also written
to the mirror, so that the destination sees the new data

After starting block-backup, a write to the block device flushes the old
data to the destination, so that the destination sees the old data

Timing-wise, I can accomplish a backup through either command, with the
following differences:

With drive-mirror, I start a job, wait for it to hit sync'd state, then
cancel the job. The copy is tied to the point where I cancel, and the
moment I cancel, I no longer have to worry about keeping the destination
writable (that is, the bulk of the copying is done prior to the point in
time).

With block-backup, I start a job, then wait for it to complete.  The
copy is tied to the point where I started the job, but as that may take
some time, I have to keep the destination writable until the job
completes (that is, the bulk of the work is done after the point in time).

The concept is indeed useful; more so if we can wire this into
'transaction' to capture multiple disks at the same point in time.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-14 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-09 22:22 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] block: Live backup prototype Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-09 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/8] block: add virtual_size to query-block QMP output Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-11 17:35   ` Eric Blake
2013-03-09 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/8] add basic backup support to block driver Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-09 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/8] backup: write to BlockDriverState instead of BackupDumpFunc Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-10 10:05   ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-10 11:13     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-09 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/8] block: add block_backup QMP command Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-14 21:46   ` Eric Blake
2013-03-14 21:52   ` Eric Blake [this message]
2013-03-15  8:38     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-04-11 12:32   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-09 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 5/8] Add nbd server Python module Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-09 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 6/8] Add VMA backup archive writer " Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-09 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 7/8] Add vma-writer.py tool Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-09 22:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 8/8] Add backup.py tool Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-10  9:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/8] block: Live backup prototype Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-10 10:19   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-10 10:38     ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-10 11:09       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-10 10:50     ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-10 11:10       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-11  8:58         ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-11  9:26         ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-11 14:27           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-11 15:00             ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-11 17:11               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-10  9:57 ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-10 10:41   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-12  9:18   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-12 10:50     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-12 11:15       ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-12 12:18         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-12 11:22       ` Kevin Wolf
2013-03-12 11:31         ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-12 11:37         ` Dietmar Maurer
2013-03-12 12:17         ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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