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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Alex Bligh <alex@alex.org.uk>
Cc: Ian Campbell <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	George Dunlap <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [PATCHv3] QEMU(upstream): Disable xen's use of O_DIRECT by default as it results in crashes.
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:49:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514850D9.5010700@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45EC1ED73B198669B314A507@nimrod.local>

Il 19/03/2013 12:44, Alex Bligh ha scritto:
> If this isn't true, we have a problem anyway with (e.g.) emulated
> devices which don't use O_DIRECT anyway.

Yes, though that would be a libxl bug, not a QEMU bug.

> And I had thought (I may be
> wrong) using O_DIRECT does not guarantee no read caching with NFS;
> O_DIRECT merely guarantees the page cache is not used under Linux
> and isn't defined under POSIX:
>  http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-nfs/msg17472.html

Read caching on the server is fine, because it is the same server that
was used for the writes.

O_DIRECT bypasses the client's page cache, and that's enough for our
purposes.

> If it were just a write caching issue, we could use O_DSYNC instead of
> O_DIRECT, which would at least ensure the copy from userspace.

O_DSYNC is not necessary.  We do issue the appropriate fsync/fdatasync.
 What O_DSYNC does is add an implicit fdatasync after every write,
basically.

Paolo

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-19 11:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-18 12:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3] QEMU(upstream): Disable xen's use of O_DIRECT by default as it results in crashes Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 12:18 ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 13:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-18 13:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-03-18 13:19   ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 13:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 13:49   ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 13:49   ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 14:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 14:05     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 14:30       ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 14:49         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 15:40           ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 15:40           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 16:19             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 16:53               ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 16:53                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 17:38                 ` [Qemu-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-03-18 17:38                   ` George Dunlap
2013-03-18 17:47                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 17:47                     ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 18:00                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 18:00                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 10:06                     ` George Dunlap
2013-03-19 10:06                     ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-03-19 10:43                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 10:43                       ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 10:51                         ` George Dunlap
2013-03-19 10:51                         ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-03-19 11:14                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 11:14                           ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 11:21                             ` George Dunlap
2013-03-19 11:21                               ` George Dunlap
2013-03-19 15:12                               ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-03-19 15:29                                 ` George Dunlap
2013-03-19 19:15                                   ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-20 10:24                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-03-20 10:37                                       ` George Dunlap
2013-03-20 11:08                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-20 11:20                                           ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-20 11:20                                           ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Alex Bligh
2013-03-20 11:08                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-20 10:37                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " George Dunlap
2013-03-20 11:57                                       ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " David Scott
2013-03-20 11:57                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " David Scott
2013-03-20 10:24                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-03-19 19:15                                   ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-19 15:29                                 ` George Dunlap
2013-03-19 15:12                               ` George Dunlap
2013-03-19 11:44                             ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Alex Bligh
2013-03-19 11:49                               ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-03-19 11:49                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 11:44                             ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-19 15:13                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-03-19 15:13                         ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-03-19 16:53                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 16:53                           ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 17:03                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-03-19 17:03                             ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-03-20  8:33                           ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-20  8:33                             ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-20  9:26                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-20  9:26                             ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-29 17:19                               ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-03-29 17:19                                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-03-31 19:53                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Alex Bligh
2013-04-01 15:32                                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] [RFC] Xen PV backend: Move call to bdrv_new from blk_init to blk_connect Alex Bligh
2013-04-01 15:32                                     ` Alex Bligh
2013-04-01 15:44                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-04-01 20:56                                       ` Alex Bligh
2013-04-02 11:08                                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-04-02 11:08                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-04-05 10:31                                           ` [PATCHv2 1/2] " Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 10:31                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 10:31                                             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 2/2] Xen PV backend: Disable use of O_DIRECT by default as it results in crashes Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 10:31                                             ` Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 14:22                                             ` [PATCHv2 1/2] Xen PV backend: Move call to bdrv_new from blk_init to blk_connect Stefano Stabellini
2013-04-05 14:22                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2013-04-05 15:42                                               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 " Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 15:42                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 2/2] Xen PV backend: Disable use of O_DIRECT by default as it results in crashes Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 15:42                                                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 15:42                                               ` [PATCHv3 1/2] Xen PV backend: Move call to bdrv_new from blk_init to blk_connect Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 15:43                                               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 " Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 15:43                                               ` Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 10:32                                           ` [PATCHv2 1/2] Xen PV backend (for qemu-upstream-4.2-testing): " Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 10:32                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 10:32                                             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 2/2] Xen PV backend (for qemu-upstream-4.2-testing): Disable use of O_DIRECT by default as it results in crashes Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 10:32                                             ` Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 10:34                                           ` [PATCH] [RFC] Xen PV backend: Move call to bdrv_new from blk_init to blk_connect Alex Bligh
2013-04-05 10:34                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bligh
2013-04-01 20:56                                       ` Alex Bligh
2013-04-01 15:44                                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-04-01 16:35                                   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] [PATCHv3] QEMU(upstream): Disable xen's use of O_DIRECT by default as it results in crashes Alex Bligh
2013-04-01 16:35                                     ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-31 19:53                                 ` Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 16:19             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 14:49         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 14:30       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bligh
2013-03-18 13:32 ` Paolo Bonzini

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