From: "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, owasserm@redhat.com,
abali@us.ibm.com, mrhines@us.ibm.com, gokul@us.ibm.com,
pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 03/10] more verbose documentation of the RDMA transport
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:08:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51487F68.2060305@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130319081939.GC11259@redhat.com>
This is actual a much bigger problem that I thought, not just for RDMA:
Currently the *sender* side is does not support overcommit
during a regular TCP migration.......I assume because the
migration_bitmap does not know which memory is mapped or
unmapped by the host kernel.
Is this a known issue?
- Michael
On 03/19/2013 04:19 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 07:23:53PM -0400, Michael R. Hines wrote:
>> On 03/18/2013 05:26 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>> Probably but I haven't mentioned ballooning at all.
>>>
>>> memory overcommit != ballooning
>> Sure, then setting ballooning aside for the moment,
>> then let's just consider regular (unused) virtual memory.
>>
>> In this case, what's wrong with the destination mapping
>> and pinning all the memory if it is not being ballooned?
>>
>> If the guest touches all the memory during normal operation
>> before migration begins (which would be the common case),
>> then overcommit is irrelevant, no?
> We have ways (e.g. cgroups) to limit what a VM can do. If it tries to
> use more RAM than we let it, it will swap, still making progress, just
> slower. OTOH it looks like pinning more memory than allowed by the
> cgroups limit will just get stuck forever (probably a bug,
> should fail instead? but does not help your protocol
> which needs it all pinned at all times).
>
> There are also per-task resource limits. If you exceed this
> registration will fail, so not good either.
>
> I just don't see why do registration by chunks
> on source but not on destination.
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-19 15:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-18 3:18 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 00/10] cleaner ramblocks and documentation mrhines
2013-03-18 3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 01/10] ./configure --enable-rdma mrhines
2013-03-18 3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 02/10] check for CONFIG_RDMA mrhines
2013-03-18 3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 03/10] more verbose documentation of the RDMA transport mrhines
2013-03-18 10:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-18 20:24 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18 21:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-18 23:23 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 8:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 13:21 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:08 ` Michael R. Hines [this message]
2013-03-19 15:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 15:32 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 17:09 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 17:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 17:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 17:40 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 17:52 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 18:04 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 13:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 15:15 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 15:22 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 15:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 16:08 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 19:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:20 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:39 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:56 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21 5:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:24 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-20 20:45 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-20 20:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 17:49 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-21 6:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-21 15:22 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-05 20:45 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-05 20:46 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18 3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 04/10] iterators for getting the RAMBlocks mrhines
2013-03-18 8:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:25 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18 3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 05/10] reuse function for parsing the QMP 'migrate' string mrhines
2013-03-18 3:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 06/10] core RDMA migration code (rdma.c) mrhines
2013-03-18 3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 07/10] connection-establishment for RDMA mrhines
2013-03-18 8:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:26 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18 3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 08/10] introduce QEMUFileRDMA mrhines
2013-03-18 9:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:33 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 9:18 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 13:12 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 13:25 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 13:40 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 13:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 14:10 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 14:22 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 15:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [Bug]? (RDMA-related) ballooned memory not consulted during migration? Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:12 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 15:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-19 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 08/10] introduce QEMUFileRDMA Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 18:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-20 15:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-20 16:09 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-18 3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 09/10] check for QMP string and bypass nonblock() calls mrhines
2013-03-18 8:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 20:37 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 9:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-19 13:08 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-03-19 13:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-03-18 3:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v4: 10/10] send pc.ram over RDMA mrhines
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