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From: Jussi Laako <jussi@sonarnerd.net>
To: Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	clemens@ladisch.de, demian@auraliti.com, ray@auraliti.com,
	andreas@akdesigninc.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ALSA: snd-usb: Some small fixes to make Playback Design products work
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 21:37:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <514CB2E2.9050003@sonarnerd.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <514C1215.9010708@gmail.com>

On 03/22/2013 10:11 AM, Daniel Mack wrote:
> Ah, interesting. So what *are* you using right now for your transport in
> userspace? Is your application abusing standard PCM interfaces that are
> 'known' to be in fact DSD? How do other DACs expose their interfaces in
> the Linux world, and which ones did you test your application with?

Yes, it's abuse of PCM (hw) interface, I'm using the DoP specification 
as referred to in another post. All the DSD DACs that currently work 
with Linux support this. Quite many at the moment in fact and more 
coming all the time.

There's at least devices from Mytek, Fostex, Benchmark and Sonore/exD 
that work with this setup. And I believe also Chord, but I haven't got 
chance to test it yet.

Mytek has a vendor specific interface (RigiSystems USBPAL) that could 
utilize a separate raw DSD sample format.

Plus I have some of my own experiments implementing DSD on an ARM based 
SoC where there's no need use DoP, but now I need to use custom hack for 
the raw data. Thus sooner there's some officially defined ALSA formats, 
less likely it becomes fragmented set of different incompatible hacks. 
That would be a headache and nightmare for application developers.


	- Jussi

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-22 19:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-17 12:07 [PATCH 0/3] ALSA: snd-usb: Some small fixes to make Playback Design products work Daniel Mack
2013-03-17 12:07 ` [PATCH 1/3] ALSA: snd-usb: handle the bmFormats field as unsigned int Daniel Mack
2013-03-17 12:07 ` [PATCH 2/3] ALSA: snd-usb: handle raw data format of UAC2 devices Daniel Mack
2013-03-17 12:07 ` [PATCH 3/3] ALSA: snd-usb: add delay quirk for "Playback Design" products Daniel Mack
2013-03-18  9:07 ` [PATCH 0/3] ALSA: snd-usb: Some small fixes to make Playback Design products work Takashi Iwai
2013-03-18  9:15   ` Daniel Mack
2013-03-18  9:30     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-03-18 13:49       ` Daniel Mack
2013-03-19  2:51         ` Gabriel M. Beddingfield
2013-03-19  6:48           ` Takashi Iwai
2013-03-21 21:21         ` Jussi Laako
2013-03-22  8:11           ` Daniel Mack
2013-03-22 19:37             ` Jussi Laako [this message]
2013-03-23 11:31               ` Support for DSD streams (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ALSA: snd-usb: Some small fixes to make Playback Design products work) Daniel Mack
2013-03-23 19:53                 ` Support for DSD streams Jussi Laako
     [not found]             ` <7.0.0.16.2.20130322082602.0605cbc0@akdesigninc.com>
2013-03-23 11:50               ` Support for DSD streams (was: Re: [PATCH 0/3] ALSA: snd-usb: Some small fixes to make Playback Design products work) Daniel Mack
     [not found]                 ` <7.0.0.16.2.20130323101939.0605d748@akdesigninc.com>
2013-03-23 18:43                   ` Support for DSD streams Daniel Mack
     [not found]                     ` <7.0.0.16.2.20130323182911.0605db20@akdesigninc.com>
2013-03-27  9:53                       ` Daniel Mack
2013-03-23 20:01               ` [PATCH 0/3] ALSA: snd-usb: Some small fixes to make Playback Design products work Jussi Laako
     [not found]                 ` <7.0.0.16.2.20130323183543.0605ddb0@akdesigninc.com>
2013-03-24 10:50                   ` Jussi Laako
2013-03-26 19:34                     ` Daniel Mack
2013-03-28  0:10                       ` Jussi Laako
2013-03-26 19:58                   ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]                     ` <7.0.0.16.2.20130326224120.13b063e0@akdesigninc.com>
2013-03-27  9:45                       ` Clemens Ladisch
2013-03-27  9:48                       ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]                         ` <7.0.0.16.2.20130327080219.13b06900@akdesigninc.com>
2013-03-27 18:22                           ` Daniel Mack
2013-03-27 23:48                           ` Jussi Laako
2013-03-28  0:00                     ` Jussi Laako
2013-03-27 19:02               ` Daniel Mack
     [not found]           ` <7.0.0.16.2.20130321181551.0605bc60@akdesigninc.com>
2013-03-22 10:15             ` Jussi Laako
2013-03-22 10:23               ` Takashi Iwai
2013-03-22 11:08                 ` Jussi Laako
2013-03-19  2:37   ` Gabriel M. Beddingfield
2013-03-19  6:49     ` Takashi Iwai

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