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From: Danny Baumann <dannybaumann@web.de>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] drm/i915: Allow specifying a minimum brightness level for sysfs control.
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:56:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5152DE75.5010701@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130326172103.GA24566@srcf.ucam.org>

Hi,

>> Well, the ACPI spec says this (section B.5.2):
>>
>> "
>> The OEM may define the number 0 as "Zero brightness" that can mean
>> to turn off the lighting (e.g. LCD panel backlight) in the device.
>> This may be useful in the case of an output device that can still be
>> viewed using only ambient light, for example, a transflective LCD.
>> "
>>
>> My interpretation of this is that the value 0 is supposed to still
>> be visible. I'm pretty sure I saw a statement that 0 is supposed to
>> mean "barely visible" somewhere, but can't find it at the moment.
>> I'll search for the source of it.
>
> I think that's a stretch - "This may be useful" isn't normative
> language, "The OEM may define" is. But even if we do assert it for the
> ACPI backlight, it's not true for other interfaces - zero backlight
> intensity is supposed to be screen off on Apple hardware, for instance.

OK, I see. And there is user space depending on that behaviour? And 
again - how is user space supposed to know about the behavioral 
differences? Is it something like 'if type is raw, don't expect anything'?
The reason for my question is that I want to determine what a) the 
correct place to fix this and b) the correct fix is. As Xrandr abstracts 
away the used backlight interface, I see no way for user space using 
Xrandr (e.g. KDE) to meaningfully handle this.

Thanks,

Danny

  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-27 11:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-26 11:48 [PATCH 0/1] drm/i915: Allow specifying a minimum brightness level for sysfs control Danny Baumann
2013-03-26 11:48 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Danny Baumann
2013-03-26 15:13   ` Daniel Vetter
2013-03-26 15:20     ` Chris Wilson
2013-03-26 17:04       ` Danny Baumann
2013-03-26 16:55     ` Danny Baumann
2013-03-26 17:02 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Matthew Garrett
2013-03-26 17:10   ` Danny Baumann
2013-03-26 17:21     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-03-27 11:56       ` Danny Baumann [this message]
2013-03-27 12:35         ` Alex Deucher
2013-03-27 12:56           ` Danny Baumann
2013-03-27 13:06             ` Alex Deucher
2013-03-27 15:10         ` Matthew Garrett

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