From: Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Kent E Yoder <yoder1@us.ibm.com>,
Corey Bryant <coreyb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Joel Schopp <jschopp@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Kenneth Goldman <kgoldman@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] vNVRAM / blobstore design
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:27:39 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <51532C0B.1050108@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k3os7okn.fsf@codemonkey.ws>
On 03/27/2013 01:14 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Stefan Berger <stefanb@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
>
>>
> What I struggle with is that we're calling this a "blobstore". Using
> BER to store "blobs" seems kind of pointless especially when we're
> talking about exactly three blobs.
>
> I suspect real hardware does something like, flash is N bytes, blob 1 is
> a max of X bytes, blob 2 is a max of Y bytes, and blob 3 is (N - X - Y)
> bytes.
>
> Do we really need to do anything more than that?
I typically call it NVRAM, but earlier discussions seemed to prefer
'blobstore'.
Using BER is the 2nd design of the NVRAM/blobstore. The 1st one didn't
use any visitors but used a directory in the first sector pointing to
the actual blobs in other sectors of the block device. The organization
of the directory and assignment of the blobs to their sectors, aka 'the
layout of the data' in the disk image, was handled by the
NVRAM/blobstore implementation.
I think the least one needs is to make the NVRAM/blobstore a bit more
generic than making it too TPM-specific is to provide a layer that
organizes the blobs the device may produce and provides functions to
register those blobs, have them read or written to without the device
knowing where exactly the data are located on the storage device. A
nugget of the 1st implementation was that we could encrypt the blobs
themselves easily which made it also easier to support encrypted blobs
on non-QCOW2 devices (modulo the loss of snapshotting then).
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-27 17:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-25 21:39 [Qemu-devel] vNVRAM / blobstore design Stefan Berger
2013-03-25 22:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-25 22:20 ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-27 15:17 ` Corey Bryant
2013-03-27 15:20 ` Corey Bryant
2013-03-27 15:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 16:07 ` mdroth
2013-03-27 15:43 ` Kenneth Goldman
2013-03-27 15:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 16:12 ` Joel Schopp
2013-03-27 16:46 ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-27 17:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-27 17:27 ` Stefan Berger [this message]
2013-03-27 18:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-27 19:12 ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-28 16:11 ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-28 16:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-28 17:02 ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-28 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-28 17:36 ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-28 17:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-29 13:55 ` Stefan Berger
2013-03-29 15:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2013-03-29 17:33 ` Kenneth Goldman
2013-03-31 8:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-31 20:48 ` Kenneth Goldman
2013-04-02 12:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-02 13:24 ` Kenneth Goldman
2013-04-02 13:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 18:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-03-27 16:20 ` Kenneth Goldman
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