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From: Aaron Lu <aaron.lu@intel.com>
To: Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com>
Cc: Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>, "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, Ben Jencks <ben@bjencks.net>,
	joeyli <jlee@suse.com>, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 17:08:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <515AA007.1050305@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130401130340.GA3269@thinkpad-t410>

On 04/01/2013 09:03 PM, Seth Forshee wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 09:53:36AM +0800, Aaron Lu wrote:
>> On 02/12/2013 12:21 AM, Seth Forshee wrote:
>>> The AML implementation for brightness control on several ThinkPads
>>> contains a workaround to meet a Windows 8 requirement of 101 brightness
>>> levels [1]. The implementation is flawed, as only 16 of the brighness
>>> values reported by _BCL affect a change in brightness. _BCM silently
>>> discards the rest of the values. Disabling Windows 8 compatibility on
>>> these machines reverts them to the old behavior, making _BCL only report
>>> the 16 brightness levels which actually work. Add a quirk to do this
>>> along with a dmi callback to disable Win8 compatibility.
>>
>> If we disable the _BQC(i.e. set cap._BQC=0) for these systems, will the
>> problem go away? If so, I think perhaps we can put these systems into a
>> _BQC quirk table and set cap._BQC=0 for them.
> 
> That helps a little, but we're still left with only 16 of the 101
> brightness levels causing any change in brightness. The firmware isn't
> rounding the "bad" values or anything like that; it just silently
> ignores them.

OK, and if GUI tool like g-s-d decides to go some more steps when
adjusting backlight level, it may always choose the non-functional
values. Hmm, doesn't seem to be an usable way then.

I really wondered, how Windows handled this, it should have the same
problem, unless they are not using the acpi video interface?

> 
> I submitted a second set of patches [1] which writes all intermediate
> values between the old and new brightness values and disables _BQC for
> these machines (empirically rather than using a quirk table), though no
> one seems to be interested in reviewing them.

Suppose we are at level 100, and the user sets the target level to be
20, then we will need to call _BCM 80 times?

Thanks,
Aaron


  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-02  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-11 16:21 [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads Seth Forshee
2013-02-11 17:52 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-11 19:06   ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-11 19:09     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-11 19:31       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-02-12  3:05         ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 20:32       ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 20:55         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 21:04           ` Ben Jencks
2013-02-13 21:49             ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 21:46           ` Seth Forshee
2013-02-13 21:54             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 22:04               ` Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:38           ` Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39             ` [PATCH 1/5] ACPICA: Add interface for getting latest Windows version requested via _OSI Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 2/5] acpi_video: Avoid unnecessary conversions between backlight levels and indexes Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 3/5] acpi_video: Add workaround for broken Windows 8 backlight implementations Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 11:44                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-04 12:35                   ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 13:46                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-04 14:02                       ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 14:27                         ` Aaron Lu
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 4/5] acpi_video: Disable use of _BQC when value doesn't match those set through _BCM Seth Forshee
2013-03-07 19:39               ` [PATCH 5/5] acpi_video: Don't handle ACPI brightness notifications by default Seth Forshee
2013-08-02  5:55                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-02 14:41                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-02 14:52                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03  0:26                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-03  9:46                         ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03 11:23                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-03 12:10                             ` Aaron Lu
2013-08-03 22:07                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-08-04  1:08                                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-03-18 21:25             ` [PATCH] ACPI: Disable Windows 8 compatibility for some Lenovo ThinkPads Seth Forshee
2013-04-02  5:18               ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-02  9:15                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 11:23                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-02 13:44                     ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-02 19:08                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-04-19 12:24               ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-20 22:06                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-21  2:29                   ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-21 15:46                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2013-02-13 21:09       ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-01  1:53 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-01 13:03   ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-02  9:08     ` Aaron Lu [this message]
2013-04-02 13:00       ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-02 13:43         ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-03  7:04         ` Ben Jencks
2013-04-03  7:27           ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-03 13:45             ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-04 11:39               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-19  3:15           ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-20 22:06             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-21 11:07               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-21 12:11                 ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-21 21:42                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-22  9:39                   ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 11:51                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2013-04-22 12:11                       ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 13:06                         ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22 13:40                           ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 13:56                             ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22 14:07                               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 15:11                                 ` Seth Forshee
2013-04-22  2:18             ` joeyli
2013-04-22 10:08               ` Aaron Lu
2013-04-22 12:00                 ` joeyli

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