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From: Juergen Gross <juergen.gross@ts.fujitsu.com>
To: xen-devel@lists.xen.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6 of 8 [RFC]] libxc: introduce xc_domain_move_memory
Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 11:16:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5163DC6E.4090800@ts.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1365497480.17022.81.camel@Abyss>

On 09.04.2013 10:51, Dario Faggioli wrote:
> On mar, 2013-04-09 at 09:13 +0100, Juergen Gross wrote:
>> What about the following approach:
>>
> In general, I like it... More details below.
>
>> - do the migration in chunks (like 1GB, may be configurable)
>>
> Yes, provided these chunks are big enough, I think the overhead of is
> acceptable.
>
>> - don't move pages which are already on one of the target nodes
>>
> Yep, that is definitely sane, and was already on my TODO list (although,
> you're right, I forgot to mention it in the cover or in the various
> changelogs). It's not there yet because I'm missing a way of knowing on
> what node a page is, but I'm already working of putting it together.
>
> Anyway, I agree on this too, and thanks for pointing that out. :-)
>
>> - try to allocate memory on the target node while the domain is still running.
>>     If this fails, there is no need to move that chunk. Depending on the page
>>     size requirements (huge pages) decide whether the move is aborted or done
>>     partially.
>> - in case of successful allocation suspend the domain, do the copy and update
>>     page tables for the copied pages, then resume the domain
>>
> This is also fine, the only issue being that I'd probably need to fiddle
> with the domain max_mem, and stuff like that, wouldn't I? I'm saying
> this because, when testing the few that I sent already, I run right into
> this when I was trying to do it in the allocate-copy-deallocate order
> (of course, depending on how big a chunk is, but this is going to be
> much less than 1GB!).

There might be 1GB huge pages which have to be copied at once (especially for
PV-domains). Doing a migration to another node for performance reasons and
losing huge page advantages at the same time seems to be a bad idea. :-)

> Do you see what I mean? Do you think it would be nice to increase the
> domain's "memory allowance" (temporarily, of course) for this to be
> possible?

Would make sense, I think. :-)

>
>> - free the memory chunk on the old node(s)
>> - repeat until either no memory obtained or move is finished
>>
>> This will have higher overhead, but the domain will be suspended for only
>> short periods of time. The memory requirements don't matter, as the additional
>> memory will be allocated only for a short period of time.
>>
> Yep, this all makes sense, with the only nit being the max_mem issue
> above.


Juergen

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-09  9:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-09  2:49 [PATCH 0 of 8 [RFC]] Move all the memory of a domain Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  2:49 ` [PATCH 1 of 8 [RFC]] xl: allow for node-wise specification of vcpu pinning Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  2:49 ` [PATCH 2 of 8 [RFC]] xl: allow for changing NUMA node affinity on-line Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  2:49 ` [PATCH 3 of 8 [RFC]] libxc: introduce xc_domain_get_address_size Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  2:49 ` [PATCH 4 of 8 [RFC]] libxc: introduce xc_map_domain_meminfo (and xc_unmap_domain_meminfo) Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  2:49 ` [PATCH 5 of 8 [RFC]] libxc: allow for ctxt to be NULL in xc_vcpu_setcontext Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  2:49 ` [PATCH 6 of 8 [RFC]] libxc: introduce xc_domain_move_memory Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  5:23   ` Juergen Gross
2013-04-09  6:56     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  8:13       ` Juergen Gross
2013-04-09  8:51         ` Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  9:16           ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2013-04-09 17:43   ` Dan Magenheimer
2013-04-11 14:16     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-05-02 14:32   ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-02 15:07     ` George Dunlap
2013-05-02 15:13       ` Tim Deegan
2013-05-06 17:37         ` Dario Faggioli
2013-05-06 17:29     ` Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  2:49 ` [PATCH 7 of 8 [RFC]] libxl: introduce libxl_domain_move_memory Dario Faggioli
2013-04-09  2:49 ` [PATCH 8 of 8 [RFC]] tools/misc: introduce xen-mfndump Dario Faggioli

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