From: "Michael R. Hines" <mrhines@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, owasserm@redhat.com,
abali@us.ibm.com, mrhines@us.ibm.com, gokul@us.ibm.com,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 03/12] comprehensive protocol documentation
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 13:49:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5166F7AE.8070209@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130411145632.GA2280@redhat.com>
On 04/11/2013 10:56 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 04:50:21PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>> Il 11/04/2013 16:37, Michael S. Tsirkin ha scritto:
>>> pg1 -> pin -> req -> res -> rdma -> done
>>> pg2 -> pin -> req -> res -> rdma -> done
>>> pg3 -> pin -> req -> res -> rdma -> done
>>> pg4 -> pin -> req -> res -> rdma -> done
>>> pg4 -> pin -> req -> res -> rdma -> done
>>>
>>> It's like a assembly line see? So while software does the registration
>>> roundtrip dance, hardware is processing rdma requests for previous
>>> chunks.
>> Does this only affects the implementation, or also the wire protocol?
> It affects the wire protocol.
I *do* believe chunked registration was a *very* useful request by
the community, and I want to thank you for convincing me to implement it.
But, with all due respect, pipelining is a "solution looking for a problem".
Improving the protocol does not help the behavior of any well-known
workloads,
because it is based on the idea the the memory footprint of a VM would
*rapidly* shrink and contract up and down during the steady-state iteration
rounds while the migration is taking place.
This simply does not happen - workloads don't behave that way - they either
grow really big or they grow really small and they settle that way for a
reasonable
amount of time before the load on the application changes at a future
point in time.
- Michael
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-11 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-09 3:04 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 00/12] new formal protocol design mrhines
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 01/12] ./configure with and without --enable-rdma mrhines
2013-04-09 17:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 18:07 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 02/12] check for CONFIG_RDMA mrhines
2013-04-09 16:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 03/12] comprehensive protocol documentation mrhines
2013-04-10 5:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10 13:04 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10 13:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10 15:29 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10 17:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10 20:05 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 7:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 13:12 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 13:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 13:58 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 14:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 14:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 14:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 17:49 ` Michael R. Hines [this message]
2013-04-11 19:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 20:33 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-12 10:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-12 10:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-12 11:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-12 14:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-14 11:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 14:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-14 14:40 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 14:27 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 16:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 16:07 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 16:40 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 18:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 19:06 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 21:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15 1:06 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15 6:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15 13:07 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15 22:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15 8:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-15 13:08 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15 8:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-12 13:47 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 8:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 14:31 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 18:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-14 19:43 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-14 21:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15 1:10 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15 6:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-15 8:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-15 13:24 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-15 13:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-15 19:55 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:01 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:18 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 15:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 15:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-11 15:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 16:06 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-12 5:10 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-12 5:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-12 5:54 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 15:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 16:09 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 17:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-11 17:27 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-11 16:13 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 04/12] introduce qemu_ram_foreach_block() mrhines
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 05/12] core RDMA migration logic w/ new protocol mrhines
2013-04-09 16:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 06/12] connection-establishment for RDMA mrhines
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 07/12] additional savevm.c accessors " mrhines
2013-04-09 17:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 17:31 ` Peter Maydell
2013-04-09 18:04 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 08/12] new capabilities added and check for QMP string 'rdma' mrhines
2013-04-09 17:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-10 1:11 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-10 8:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-10 10:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-10 12:24 ` Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 17:02 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 09/12] transmit pc.ram using RDMA mrhines
2013-04-09 16:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 10/12] new header file prototypes for savevm.c mrhines
2013-04-09 16:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 11/12] update schema to define new capabilities mrhines
2013-04-09 16:43 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 3:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 12/12] don't set nonblock on invalid file descriptor mrhines
2013-04-09 16:45 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-09 4:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH RDMA support v5: 00/12] new formal protocol design Michael R. Hines
2013-04-09 12:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2013-04-09 14:23 ` Michael R. Hines
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