From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: "linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <mkp@mkp.net>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
Subject: T10 WCE interpretation in Linux & device level access
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:41:28 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5176E3E8.3000809@redhat.com> (raw)
For many years, we have used WCE as an indication that a device has a volatile
write cache (not just a write cache) and used this as a trigger to send down
SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE commands as needed.
Some arrays with non-volatile cache seem to have WCE set and simply ignore the
command.
Some arrays with non-volatile cache seem to not set WCE.
Others arrays with non-volatile cache - our problem arrays - set WCE and do
something horrible and slow when sent the SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE commands.
Note that for file systems, you can override this behavior by mounting with our
barriers disabled (mount -o nobarrier .....). There is currently no way do
disable this for anything using the device directly, not through the file system.
Some applications run against block devices - not through a file system - and
want not to slow to a crawl when they have an array in my problem set.
Giving them a hook to ignore WCE seems to be a hack, but one that would resolve
issues with users who won't want to wait months (years?) for us to convince the
array vendors.
Is this a hook worth doing?
Have we hashed this out in the T10 committee?
Regards,
Ric
next reply other threads:[~2013-04-23 19:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-23 19:41 Ric Wheeler [this message]
2013-04-23 20:07 ` T10 WCE interpretation in Linux & device level access James Bottomley
2013-04-23 22:39 ` Jeremy Linton
2013-04-24 5:44 ` Elliott, Robert (Server Storage)
2013-04-24 11:00 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-04-27 16:09 ` James Bottomley
2013-04-24 11:17 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-24 12:07 ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-04-24 12:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-24 12:12 ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-04-24 12:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-24 12:27 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-04-24 12:27 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-04-24 12:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-24 14:35 ` Jeremy Linton
2013-04-24 18:20 ` Black, David
2013-04-24 20:41 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-04-24 21:02 ` James Bottomley
2013-04-24 21:54 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-24 22:09 ` James Bottomley
2013-04-24 22:36 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-04-24 22:46 ` James Bottomley
2013-04-25 11:35 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-04-25 14:12 ` James Bottomley
2013-04-25 1:32 ` Martin K. Petersen
2013-04-27 6:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-04-24 11:30 ` Hannes Reinecke
2013-04-23 20:28 ` Douglas Gilbert
2013-04-24 15:40 ` Douglas Gilbert
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