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From: Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>
To: Torbjorn Granlund <tg@gmplib.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Reporting Heisenbugs in qemu
Date: Tue, 07 May 2013 14:25:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <518900BF.7080103@ilande.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8661yvqasu.fsf@shell.gmplib.org>

On 07/05/13 12:38, Torbjorn Granlund wrote:

Hi Torbjorn,

> I am trying to use qemu to
>
> 1. cover more of the assembly code in GMP
> 2. check configuration logic of GMP
>
> but I am not as successful as I would like to be.
>
> The 2nd table of http://gmplib.org/devel/testsystems.html shows all
> emulated systems I am using, most of which are qemu-based.

Wow - that's a really impressive setup :)

> Unfortunately, several of the qemu-based systems experience intermittent
> but common segfaults:
>
> 1. Linux mips64eb 2.6.32-5-5kc-malta #1 Sun Sep 23 12:29:36 UTC 2012 mips64 GNU/Linux
> 2. Linux mips64el 2.6.32-5-5kc-malta #1 Fri Feb 15 21:38:11 UTC 2013 mips64 GNU/Linux
> 3. Linux kick.gmplib.org 2.6.18-6-sparc32 #1 Sat Dec 27 09:13:12 UTC 2008 sparc GNU/Linux
>
> An example of a failure is:
>
> gmp/tests/cxx/t-ops2.cc: In function 'void checkz()':
> gmp/tests/cxx/t-ops2.cc:86: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
> Please submit a full bug report,
> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
> See<URL:http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html>  for instructions.
> For Debian GNU/Linux specific bug reporting instructions,
> see<URL:file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.1/README.Bugs>.
> The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem.
>
> (This was from the sparc32 system.)
>
> rootrem.c: In function 'mpn_rootrem_internal':
> rootrem.c:120:1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
> Please submit a full bug report,
> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
> See<file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.6/README.Bugs>  for instructions.
> The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem.
>
> (From the mips64eb system.)
>
> I am aware of that these systems don't exactly use the
> kernel-of-the-week.  Newer kernels I have tried cause non-boot.  (I
> don't think I've tried any newer sparc kernel, as building that would
> require a stable sparc system...)
>
> I realise that linux might have been debugged until it works on real
> hardware, but that qemu might trigger untested linux execution paths.
>
> Yesterday, I disabled GMP testing on these qemu systems, as I got tired
> of the many false alarms, and since GMP looked bad.  Is there any hope
> that these qemu systems will become stable?  Or aren't these problems
> qemu's fault?

I actually spent quite a bit of time a couple of years ago trying to 
troubleshoot a similar intermittent buildfarm compiler blowout in a Xen 
x86 guest, and in the end it turned out to be simply a lack of memory 
(both physical and virtual) assigned to the VM.

It just so happened that the code in question was tickling a gcc bug 
which caused excess memory usage during compilation, but only when 
compiling with a certain combination of flags. This may not necessarily 
be the problem here, but it's certainly worth a little experimentation 
first before looking deeper into QEMU.


HTH,

Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-07 13:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-07 11:38 [Qemu-devel] Reporting Heisenbugs in qemu Torbjorn Granlund
2013-05-07 13:25 ` Mark Cave-Ayland [this message]
2013-05-07 15:50 ` Aurelien Jarno
2013-05-07 16:18   ` Torbjorn Granlund
2013-05-07 21:29 ` Artyom Tarasenko
2013-05-07 21:43   ` Torbjorn Granlund
2013-05-07 21:53     ` Artyom Tarasenko
2013-05-07 23:06       ` Torbjorn Granlund
2013-05-07 22:57   ` Aurelien Jarno
2013-05-08  7:25     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-08  9:45       ` Torbjorn Granlund
2013-05-08 10:18         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-05-09 18:15           ` Blue Swirl
2013-05-08 10:35         ` Aurelien Jarno
2013-05-09  0:28         ` Rob Landley

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