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From: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
To: Jean-Pierre Tosoni <jp.tosoni@acksys.fr>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v2] mac80211: Use libnl-configurable values for retry counts
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:08:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51CF3EC9.3000707@openwrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1372351227-25575-1-git-send-email-jp.tosoni@acksys.fr>

On 2013-06-27 6:40 PM, Jean-Pierre Tosoni wrote:
> From: J.P. Tosoni <jp.tosoni@acksys.fr>
> 
> In the rate control algorithms, the maximum retry count is limited by
> a) a constant value obtained from the hardware driver
> b) a constant limit (6ms) on the time allowed for all
>    retries of each frame.
> 
> Replace the retry count by existing configurable values from nl80211.
> Use wiphy->retry_long for frames whose length exceed rts_threshold.
> Use wiphy->retry_short for all other frames.
> Check that the configured value does not exceed driver capabilities.
> Use the new values as soon as the next frame is transmitted.
> 
> Caveat: the retry count for frames sent outside the context of a STA is
> still taken from the hardware driver.
> ---
> What I am seeking with this patch:
> I believe the configuration of the retries will help making recovery
> much faster when an AP (in infrastructure mode) or a peer (in mesh
> mode) suddenly disappears.
I'm all for reducing retries, but I think the way you're applying the
limit is problematic.
If minstrel decides to use many retries for a high rate and you're
simply cutting off all retries that exceed the configured limit, you're
potentially inviting quite a bit of unnecessary packet loss.
I'm planning to remove the use of retry rate slot 4 (fallback to lowest
rate) from minstrel, since max_prob_rate should already provide quite
decent reliability.

- Felix

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-29 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-27 16:40 [RFC v2] mac80211: Use libnl-configurable values for retry counts Jean-Pierre Tosoni
2013-06-29 20:08 ` Felix Fietkau [this message]
2013-07-01  8:34   ` Jean-Pierre Tosoni
2013-07-01  9:04     ` Felix Fietkau
2013-07-02 13:28   ` Jean-Pierre Tosoni
2013-07-02 13:50     ` Felix Fietkau
2013-07-02 17:40       ` Jean-Pierre Tosoni
2013-07-02 18:05         ` Felix Fietkau

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