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From: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "rostedt@goodmis.org" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"andi@firstfloor.org" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] static keys: fix test/set races
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 00:12:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D1019B.1020406@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130629072016.GA14746@gmail.com>

On 06/29/2013 03:20 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * jbaron@akamai.com <jbaron@akamai.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As pointed out by Andi Kleen, some static key users can be racy because they
>> check the value of the key->enabled, and then subsequently update the branch
>> direction. A number of call sites have 'higher' level locking that avoids this
>> race, but the usage in the scheduler features does not. See:
>> http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1304.2/01655.html
> But that's not an issue at all - switching the scheduler features is for
> development and debugging only, and in some cases higher level locking
> would be needed to solve it 'properly', beyond what the keys API could
> give ...
>
> So this is pretty pointless, sorry, please don't complicate this facility.
>
> Thanks,
>
> 	Ingo

Hi Ingo,

Yes, I agree that 'higher' level locking may be required for some 
callers of the newly proposed interface. However, I do think that the 
static_key_slow_set_true()/false() provides a nice abstraction for some 
callers, while addressing test/set() races, by making that sequence atomic.

I view the proposed inteface of set_true()/set_false() as somewhat 
analogous to an atomic_set() call. In the same way, the current 
static_key_slow_inc()/dec() are analogous to atomic_inc()/dec().

It arguably makes the code code a bit more readable, transforming 
sequences such as:

if (!static_key_enabled(&control_var))
         static_key_slow_inc(&control_var);

into:

         static_key_slow_set_true(&control_var);


I see at least 3 users of static_keys in the tree which I think would 
benefit  from this transformation. The 2 attached with this series, and 
the usage in kernel/tracepoint.c.

Thanks,

-Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-01  4:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-28 22:30 [PATCH 0/3] static keys: fix test/set races jbaron
2013-06-28 22:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] static_keys: Add a static_key_slow_set_true()/false() interface jbaron
2013-06-29  3:00   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-28 22:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] sched: fix static keys race in sched_feat jbaron
2013-06-29  3:03   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-28 22:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] udp: make use of static_key_slow_set_true() interface jbaron
2013-06-29  3:13   ` Steven Rostedt
2013-07-01  4:20     ` Jason Baron
2013-07-01 14:28       ` Steven Rostedt
2013-06-29  7:20 ` [PATCH 0/3] static keys: fix test/set races Ingo Molnar
2013-07-01  4:12   ` Jason Baron [this message]
2013-07-02  8:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-02  9:38       ` Ingo Molnar
2014-06-24  2:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-06-24  2:41   ` Jason Baron
2014-06-30 21:43   ` Jason Baron
2014-06-30 22:36     ` Steven Rostedt

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