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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
Cc: "Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] per-object libraries
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:39:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51D18681.6050805@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51D05090.40304@msgid.tls.msk.ru>

Il 30/06/2013 17:36, Michael Tokarev ha scritto:
> 30.06.2013 19:28, Andreas Färber wrote:
>> Am 18.06.2013 19:34, schrieb Michael Tokarev:
>>> The following working patchset demonstrates a one step to plugins system:
>>> it moves various dependent libraries and stuff out from libs_softmmu or
>>> libs_tools to object-specific variables.
>>
>> We did have a more elaborate Makefile variable system before, but Paolo
>> stashed most of that into common-obj-y and obj-y for simplicity.
> 
> I don't understand.  I for one like to see a plugins system used in qemu,
> and except of the build system everything else is easy (and even nice,
> there's even no need to load all plugins at startup as was initially
> suggested).  But for this to work, we really need to separate libs
> used only by plugins from the main lot, -- or else there's just no
> reason to build plugins in the first place.

Right.

What used to be there was something like

   net-obj-y = foo.o bar.o
   common-obj-y += $(addprefix net/, $(net-obj-y))

and this has been replaced by net/Makefile.objs and friends.

This should not be undone, but it is completely different from what you
are trying to do.  You need a much more fine-grained assignment of
libraries to object files.

I think the build system parts are hard because we haven't found the
right design.

> So, are you saying we should abandom this whole idea?  Or that maybe
> Paolo dislikes it (I think he expressed his interest here too)?

Absolutely not!

Paolo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-01 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-18 17:34 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] per-object libraries Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/4] build-sys: strip leading ./ from $(obj) Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/4] build-sys: allow object-specific libraries to be used to link executables Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/4] build-sys: allow per-object foo.cflags variables Michael Tokarev
2013-06-18 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/4] build-sys: move -lcurl out of libs and specify it for curl.o Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19  0:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] per-object libraries Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 14:16 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-19 14:58   ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 16:46   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 16:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 18:18   ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-19 18:52     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-19 19:31       ` Richard Henderson
     [not found]         ` <51C2D03E.2030505@redhat.com>
2013-06-20 10:06           ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-20 12:39             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-20 12:50               ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-20 17:09           ` Richard Henderson
2013-06-19 20:00       ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-20 10:09         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-30 15:23   ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 10:08     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 10:10       ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 10:18         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-06-30 15:28 ` Andreas Färber
2013-06-30 15:36   ` Michael Tokarev
2013-06-30 15:51     ` Peter Maydell
2013-06-30 16:49       ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01  8:00         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-06-30 15:56     ` Andreas Färber
2013-07-01 13:39     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-07-01 14:43       ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 14:46         ` Andreas Färber
2013-07-01 14:52           ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 14:53           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 15:06             ` Michael Tokarev
2013-07-01 15:20               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-01 15:52                 ` Michael Tokarev

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