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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	ronnie sahlberg <ronniesahlberg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 07:58:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <51E8D573.8030509@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AA5169DB-5904-4414-AA4A-F0F080FCB5AD@kamp.de>

Il 18/07/2013 21:28, Peter Lieven ha scritto:
> thanks for the details. I think to have optimal performance and best
> change for unmapping in qemu-img convert
> it might be best to export the OPTIMAL UNMAP GRANULARITY

Agreed about this.

> as well as the write_zeroes_w_discard capability via the BDI

But why this?!?  It is _not_ needed.  All you need is to change the
default of the "-S" option to be the OPTIMAL UNMAP GRANULARITY if it is
nonzero.

Paolo

> and than zero
> out the whole device with bdrv_write_zeroes and the BDRV_MAY_DISCARD
> flag.
> 
> the logic for this is already prepared in patch4 (topic of this email). except that
> i have to exchange bdrv_discard with bdrv_write_zeroes w/ BDRV_MAY_DISCARD.
> 
> what do you think?
> 
> 
> 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 18.07.2013 um 16:35 schrieb Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>:
>>>
>>>> Il 18/07/2013 16:32, Peter Lieven ha scritto:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> (Mis)alignment and granularity can be handled later.  We can ignore them
>>>>>> for now.  Later, if we decide the best way to support them is a flag,
>>>>>> we'll add it.  Let's not put the cart before the horse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, I expect alignment!=0 to be really, really rare.
>>>>> To explain my concerns:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that my target has internal page size of 15MB. I will check what
>>>>> happens
>>>>> if I deallocate this 15MB in chunks of lets say 1MB. If the page gets
>>>>> unprovisioned
>>>>> after the last chunk is unmapped it would be fine :-)
>>>>
>>>> You're talking of granularity here, not (mis)alignment.
>>>
>>> you are right. for the target i am talking about this is 30720 512-byte blocks for the granularity (pagesize) and 0 for the alignment.
>>> i will see what happens if I write same w/unmap the whole 30720 blocks in smaller blocks ;-) otherwise i will have to add support for honoring this values in qemu-img convert
>>> as a follow up.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
> 
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-19  5:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-15 10:49 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: add discard_zeroes and max_unmap to BlockDriverInfo Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] iscsi: add .bdrv_get_info Peter Lieven
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] block/raw: " Peter Lieven
2013-07-19  5:12   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-15 10:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert Peter Lieven
2013-07-17  8:46   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17  9:58     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:21       ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:27         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 10:31           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:47           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:19             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:45         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:21           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:26             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:25       ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 15:54         ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-17 16:27           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 16:31             ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-17 17:02               ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:04                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 17:48                   ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 20:00                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18  9:23                     ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18 10:24                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 10:42                         ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18 10:44                         ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 10:56                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 11:04                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 12:31                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 13:29                                 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 13:52                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 14:09                                     ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 14:20                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 14:32                                         ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 14:35                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-18 18:43                                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-18 18:54                                               ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 19:28                                                 ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19  5:58                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2013-07-19  6:08                                                     ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 13:25                                                       ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-19 13:49                                                         ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 14:00                                                           ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-19 14:02                                                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19 13:58                                               ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 13:55                                   ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18 14:14                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-12  8:52                                       ` Peter Lieven
2013-09-12  8:55                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-09-12  9:03                                           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:09                 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-07-18  9:21           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 10:22     ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 10:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] " Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16 11:18   ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 11:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-16 11:40       ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-16 11:55         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:23           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:28             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 10:40               ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 10:50                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:18                   ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:26                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 14:46                       ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 14:53                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-07-17 15:12                           ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-17 16:53                             ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-17 17:01                           ` Peter Lieven
2013-07-19  5:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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